I Am Watching Breaking Bad, Finally...

[stankowalski]

Saying Sons of Anarchy is bad makes you look like a whiny baby. Not only is it a great show (we only have 5 episodes left) but most people who appreciate the best shows (BB, GoT) also enjoy it.

Just watched the first episode of Sons of Anarchy.  Good start.  I like it a hell of a lot more than I did the first episode of Oz.  BTW, I have 1 more episode to watch for Oz and I still can't get in the mood to watch it.  You know a show is crap when you put off watching the very last episode of the entire series.

As for SoA, I already get the feeling that young dude's mom and step-dad (i guess) off'd his own father.

[CCS]

Walt was not a bad guy because of making drugs. That is 100% not bad in itself. He ended up turning bad along the way because f his ego. He was an anti hero up until the point where he poisoned Brock. 

 

Sons of Anarchy is just alright. I quit watching for a long time then finished it after the series ended. For me it was one of those things where I wanted the show to go left and it swerved right so it killed off any enjoyment I had. There are NO likable characters in the show and the finale wasn't very satisfying.

[TheRed]

Breaking Bad is obviously fantastic.

Sons of Anarchy at one point was a really good show. But it started to fall off a good bit going into the final season. Part of the problem was Kurt Sutter's insistence on putting his wife in just about every scene possible, and dragging her character way too far out. He's already doing that again with his new show, The Bastard Executioner.

[Zaximus]

Yup, BB is great, for me personally, top 5/10 show.  SoA, like others said, started off great but ran off the road the last few seasons.   They made the main character unredeemable and therefore, you was left with no one to route for.    Also when "what's his face" was taken off the show it spiraled.  I never realized how much he helped the show till he was gone.   I agree that Sutter's wife was in this show WAY to much and even let her sing a song every show.   It's still a good show but fell short of greatness.  BB had it all though, drama/comedy/etc.  I cracked up hard many times at the show.  The pizza throw on the roof still gets me.   Hank's "THEY ARE MINERALS!!" still gets me.  

However, if you like Sons, you should really watch "The Shield" which I think is fantastic and a top-5 show for me.  Sutter wrote a lot of it as well and there are a lot of SoA and Justified guys (also watch Justified, which had one of the BEST endings ever on a show).    Shows like BB and whatnot that are on non-pay cable owe it to The Shield for starting the "raw/rough" shows on non-pay cable.  They pushed the limits big time when it came on.  

I tell everyone, must watch shows are The Wire/The Shield/Breaking Bad/The Sopranos for drama.  GoT will probably be up there but it hasn't finished so I can't look at it with a complete view.  Mad Men is up there as well.  This is the golden age of TV, so many great shows.  I will say Ray Donovan is the most UNDERRATED show on TV right now, tied with Black Sails, people need to be watching that.    Deadwood may have been the most underrated show that never got the seasons it deserved, it was ahead of its time and if released RIGHT now would be a hit.  

I watch more TV than anyone you will ever meet so if you have questions about a show or something ask me.  I usually skip the network TV junk though minus a few exceptions (the great Person of Interest, the sometimes great Blacklist, etc).  

[Bronn]

Breaking Bad is obviously fantastic.

Sons of Anarchy at one point was a really good show. But it started to fall off a good bit going into the final season. Part of the problem was Kurt Sutter's insistence on putting his wife in just about every scene possible, and dragging her character way too far out. He's already doing that again with his new show, The Bastard Executioner.

I can totally see this... I got through like 20 minutes of the pilot of The Bastard Executioner... I had to turn it off...

He's totally trying to bite off GoT, and the characters are pretty uninteresting in what I saw.

[stankowalski]

Finished the first season of SoA.  Really good show.  Not as good as Breaking Bad, but still an enjoyable time.  Nice writing, coherent storyline's, and some good music.  

I'm kind of hating having read Zaximus' previous post though.  The one thing about these types of show's that follow "the bad guys" as main characters is not having a protagonist.  You have to have a character to root for.   I loved The Soprano's, but one thing that always irked me about the ending to the show was the character shift of Tony Soprano towards the end.  Before the final season I felt like I could pull for him, even if most of the stuff he did was "bad".  But when they made him into a total sociopath (remember the dead eyes he had when he killed Christopher (a character Tony loved).  That along with what he did to Blundetto and Adriana before, just made it hard to pull for the guy.

[TheRed]

Finished the first season of SoA.  Really good show.  Not as good as Breaking Bad, but still an enjoyable time.  Nice writing, coherent storyline's, and some good music.  

I'm kind of hating having read Zaximus' previous post though.  The one thing about these types of show's that follow "the bad guys" as main characters is not having a protagonist.  You have to have a character to root for.   I loved The Soprano's, but one thing that always irked me about the ending to the show was the character shift of Tony Soprano towards the end.  Before the final season I felt like I could pull for him, even if most of the stuff he did was "bad".  But when they made him into a total sociopath (remember the dead eyes he had when he killed Christopher (a character Tony loved).  That along with what he did to Blundetto and Adriana before, just made it hard to pull for the guy.

SOA was really good the first few seasons, it tailed off in the last two. Honestly by the end I didn't all that much care anymore.

As for The Soprano's, that to me adds realism to the character, that also happens to Walter White. Slowly but surely all that they have done unravels them to the core, and changes them irreparably. But you still cannot stop watching. I think that is why those are two of the greatest series in the history of television. Well that, and superb performances from the lead actors.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Justified is better than SOA in my opinion. 

[scpanther22]

Sutter is developing a SOA spinoff based on The Mayans.

[stankowalski]

SOA was really good the first few seasons, it tailed off in the last two. Honestly by the end I didn't all that much care anymore.

As for The Soprano's, that to me adds realism to the character, that also happens to Walter White. Slowly but surely all that they have done unravels them to the core, and changes them irreparably. But you still cannot stop watching. I think that is why those are two of the greatest series in the history of television. Well that, and superb performances from the lead actors.

Good point about Walter White, but I didn't feel he was beyond redemption right up to the end.  Tony Soprano clearly was though.

[stankowalski]

Breaking Bad is obviously fantastic.

Sons of Anarchy at one point was a really good show. But it started to fall off a good bit going into the final season. Part of the problem was Kurt Sutter's insistence on putting his wife in just about every scene possible, and dragging her character way too far out. He's already doing that again with his new show, The Bastard Executioner.

I just finished the 1st episode of the 3rd season and I'm already tired of her.  I get the family angle and i have no problem with that (loved The Sopranos and they showed a lot of family stuff).  But to have her going off killing people is too much.  

[TheRed]

I just finished the 1st episode of the 3rd season and I'm already tired of her.  I get the family angle and i have no problem with that (loved The Sopranos and they showed a lot of family stuff).  But to have her going off killing people is too much.  

Pretty much, that doesn't get any better as the show goes on, actually her screen time increases if anything really.

Good point about Walter White, but I didn't feel he was beyond redemption right up to the end.  Tony Soprano clearly was though.

 

I don't know about that one. Just off the top of my head, Walt let Jesse's girlfriend at the time die right in front of him (his own baby daughter was on the way, or already born, can't remember, this also led to that plane crash, her father was an air traffic controller). Walt also poisoned that kid, he was going to have Jesse killed at one point, instead ended up getting Hank killed, he also had Jesse kill Gale. There is probably more, but I think you get the gist, if Tony Soprano was beyond redemption, Walter White was not very far behind him at all, in my opinion at least.

[stankowalski]

 

Pretty much, that doesn't get any better as the show goes on, actually her screen time increases if anything really.

 

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yeah but didn't WW actually try to at least save Jesse at the end there?  It's been a while since I've seen the last episode but that's how I remember it.  With Tony there was none of that, he was all about Tony.