Another ESPN QB Ranking

[PhillyB]

can't process the game fast enough? is this march 2011?

[Mr. Scot]

I don't want him to be a 'young Roethlisberger'.

I don't think Roethlisberger is that good.

[pantherphan96]

"I like him, and I like the plan of what they are doing," this director said. "They have gotten big targets for him because he has some accuracy issues. That really helps. Eventually in this league, you have to win from the pocket. That to me is what keeps him from ever being a 1."

 

Outdated thinking right here. Roethlisberger makes his best throws from outside the pocket. Cam has a stronger arm and more mobility than Roethlisberger too.

I don't want him to be a 'young Roethlisberger'.

I don't think Roethlisberger is that good.

you know he threw for just under 5000 yards last year at age 32? with only 9 INTs to go with 32 TDs and a 67% completion percentage

[Mr. Scot]

Outdated thinking right here. Roethlisberger makes his best throws from outside the pocket. Cam has a stronger arm and more mobility than Roethlisberger too.

you know he threw for just under 5000 yards last year at age 32? with only 9 INTs to go with 32 TDs and a 67% completion percentage

Don't really care about stats.

I see Roethlisberger as a bigger Russell Wilson.

[pantherphan96]

Don't really care about stats.

I see Roethlisberger as a bigger Russell Wilson.

Roethlisberger is closer to a gunslinger like Favre than a game manager like Wilson.

 

[pantherking15]

Can someone post the list?

 

Tier 1

T-1. Aaron Rodgers

T-1. Tom Brady

3. Andrew Luck

4. Ben Roethlisberger

5. Peyton Manning

6. Drew Brees

Tier 2

7. Philip Rivers

8. Russell Wilson

9. Tony Romo

10. Joe Flacco

11. Matt Ryan

T-12. Eli Manning

T-12. Matthew Stafford

14. Cam Newton

Tier 3

15. Carson Palmer

16. Alex Smith

17. Ryan Tannehill

T-18. Colin Kaepernick

T-18. Andy Dalton

T-20. Derek Carr

T-20. Jay Cutler

22. Nick Foles

T-23. Sam Bradford

T-23. Teddy Bridgewater

Tier 4

25. Marcus Mariota

26. Jameis Winston

27. Blake Bortles

28. Robert Griffin III

29. Josh McCown

30. Brian Hoyer

31. Matt Cassel

32. Geno Smith

 

 

[Riverboat Ron]

Cam beats a team with his arm = Cam was lucky it wasn't picked and that team isn't a good defense anyway.

Luck beats a team with his arm = Greatest passer of his generation, doesn't matter he threw 5 int's for that 1 TD.

Wilson beats a team with his arm = Was Jesus really God's only son when we clearly see Russell play?

Cam beats a team with his legs = Running shouldn't count as a QB stat, so what, he ran over two LB's.

Luck beats a team with his legs = What a dual threat, he's the best QB evar.

Wilson beats a team with his legs = Best runner since mankind existed.

Cam gets sacked = No sense of the pocket, can't find targets, will never develop as a QB.

Luck gets sacked = Their line sucks, not Luck's fault.

Wilson gets sacked = Their line sucks, not Wilson's fault.

[L-TownCat]

Cam beats a team with his arm = Cam was lucky it wasn't picked and that team isn't a good defense anyway.

Luck beats a team with his arm = Greatest passer of his generation, doesn't matter he threw 5 int's for that 1 TD.

Wilson beats a team with his arm = Was Jesus really God's only son when we clearly see Russell play?

Cam beats a team with his legs = Running shouldn't count as a QB stat, so what, he ran over two LB's.

Luck beats a team with his legs = What a dual threat, he's the best QB evar.

Wilson beats a team with his legs = Best runner since mankind existed.

Cam gets sacked = No sense of the pocket, can't find targets, will never develop as a QB.

Luck gets sacked = Their line sucks, not Luck's fault.

Wilson gets sacked = Their line sucks, not Wilson's fault.

This post will get flamed but damn there is a lot of truth in it.

 

Too much truth to be ignored actually.

[Mr. Scot]

Roethlisberger is closer to a gunslinger like Favre than a game manager like Wilson.

 

Both make a lot of their plays by chucking the ball downfield on crazy scrambles.

The prime difference: Wilson escapes because he's elusive, Roethlisberger because he's big and tough to bring down.

 

[Diehardpanther02]

Cam isnt a top tier qb yet but i think that will change in the next couple years once he and the young receivers build charisma together.

[PhillyB]

The prime difference: Wilson escapes because he's elusive, Roethlisberger because he's big and tough to bring down.

then they are totally different

[pantherphan96]

Both make a lot of their plays by chucking the ball downfield on crazy scrambles.

The prime difference: Wilson escapes because he's elusive, Roethlisberger because he's big and tough to bring down.

 

Roethlisberger is crazy accurate on the run, he doesn't just chuck the ball deep blindly. He's an accurate gunslinger.

[Mr. Scot]

Sorry. Afraid we disagree on this.

I've long found Roethlisberger to be overrated.

[Cookie Lyon]

Getting beyond tired of the old maturation line, which is complete BS

So am I. They all regurgitate the same BS about Cam. 

I honestly believe they don't watch him play.