I dont know how i should feel about this...

[UpstatePanther]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/07/12/another-symbol-you-see-every-day-also-has-racial-past/

do the Saints really deserve freedom of speech and display? :/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

football allegiances aside, of course they do. this sh!t has gone wayyyyy too far. but dont listen to me. what do i know compared to the elitists in the NAACP and all levels of government? obviously they have our best interests at heart, what with silencing all dissent and rewriting history and all. we've never seen this happen before ever... said every Jew in Germany circa 1935. 

seriously... when do we stop trying to not offend people? Offense is part of life. only children demand change when they are offended. adults face the offense and love anyway. 

 

[Lemory]

Hahaha boy that took a turn.

[UpstatePanther]

Hahaha boy that took a turn.

yea i get carried away sometimes. haha. apologies.

[MV%doe]

I havnt been able to sleep for weeks, reason being "cracker" barrel....... I've been leading protest groups across in efforts to stop this great evil. My Facebook and twitter groups grow by the thousands each day!!!!! So pls sign up guys [email protected] and [email protected]. I tried to get matching names, but some genius already took my twitter one.

 

After we win this and we will. Then next mission is take up the railroads and disassemble the pyramids cause slaves built them.

[UpstatePanther]

Then next mission is take up the railroads and disassemble the pyramids cause slaves built them.

hahahahahaha. i made that point on facebook myself a few weeks back.

[TheRed]

Oh boy, an article from TheBlaze.

Let me guess, it's a rant about double standards, with a poor comparison, and how next we'll be getting rid of all symbols from the past?

[KendrickPanther]

This is headed to the tinderbox but we are too focused on symbols and not focused on education and behavior. The funny thing about symbols is they symbolize something different to each individual. That's a really inefficient way to invoke change.

[Spaceballs83]

I told some of you idiots on the board that it will not stop with the Confederate flag and you laughed. Who laughing now? This is only tip of the iceberg.

[PhillyB]

no reasonable number of people equate the saints logo with a palpable, directly-related racial past to make any kind of a case for getting rid of it. the slippery slope argument is silly.

[UpstatePanther]

Oh boy, an article from TheBlaze.

Let me guess, it's a rant about double standards, with a poor comparison, and how next we'll be getting rid of all symbols from the past?

can i ask where you get your information from? i take in a whole spectrum of media from the huffington post and npr to TheBlaze and Fox News. your snide remark about TheBlaze obviously implies your perspective on politics, and i can surmise where you mainly get your information from. 

for the record, there was no discussion of double standards or comparisons in the article. but i think the article itself goes to show how our country is certainly moving to get rid of all symbols from the past that someone finds offensive. your talking points response has no substance, nor basis. 

no reasonable number of people equate the saints logo with a palpable, directly-related racial past to make any kind of a case for getting rid of it. the slippery slope argument is silly.

really? thats why liberals have been calling for the removal of the American flag for years, right? thats why they burn the Flag at any opportunity?

im glad we can drink, party, and celebrate our Panthers together PhillyB. youre a cool guy but i dont think we agree on much else. haha ;)

 

if ur offended by this: 

and not offended by this: 

ur whats wrong with America!!!!! like if u agree comment if ur al sharpton

 

[PhillyB]

 

really? thats why liberals have been calling for the removal of the American flag for years, right? thats why they burn the Flag at any opportunity?

gonna need some well-sourced stats for this one homey.

[Jeremy Igo]

[UpstatePanther]

gonna need some well-sourced stats for this one homey.

gladly. 

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6335

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/11/professors-us-flag-symbolizes-racism-should-not-be-displayed-on-campus.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/25/louis-farrakhan-calls-american-flag-come-down-who-/

http://patriotupdate.com/2014/09/college-student-forced-remove-american-flag-balcony-offend-foreign-people/

these were from a quick google search. if im correct, both CampusReform and the Washington Times are left-of-center outlets. i tried to avoid personal blogs for integrity's sake. i could continue to peruse Google for stories that im sure date back years. but i dont have time at the moment. 

the fact of the matter is that there have been people burning the American flag and calling it a divisive, racist, or otherwise offensive symbol for years. thats why there's even a conversation about the right to desecrate it. people hate the slippery slope argument and call it a fallacy. unfortunately, considering human nature... its normally fairly accurate. 

hahahahahaha Dad loves that movie. pie for you sir.

[PhillyB]

gladly. 

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6335

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/11/professors-us-flag-symbolizes-racism-should-not-be-displayed-on-campus.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/25/louis-farrakhan-calls-american-flag-come-down-who-/

http://patriotupdate.com/2014/09/college-student-forced-remove-american-flag-balcony-offend-foreign-people/

these were from a quick google search. if im correct, both CampusReform and the Washington Times are left-of-center outlets. i tried to avoid personal blogs for integrity's sake. i could continue to peruse Google for stories that im sure date back years. but i dont have time at the moment. 

the fact of the matter is that there have been people burning the American flag and calling it a divisive, racist, or otherwise offensive symbol for years. thats why there's even a conversation about the right to desecrate it. people hate the slippery slope argument and call it a fallacy. unfortunately, considering human nature... its normally fairly accurate. 

you've found a few people, yes, but is there any real kind of consensus by a statistically significant margin? absolutely not. "liberals" are not burning the flag "every chance they get," and if you think they are (in any significant numbers) then it's time to log off the blaze.

the slippery slope fallacy has nothing to do with human nature. the slippery slope fallacy is invoked when someone makes the argument that X will invariably lead to Y (or even - GASP! - Z!!!!) if X is enacted, but fail to demonstrate a causal relationship between X, Y, and Z. in this case, X is the redskins team name, and Y and Z are the saints logo (and - GASP - anyone who's offended by the mcdonalds logo and wants IT taken down!) and it's a logical fallacy of the slippery slope variety to say X will lead to Y or Z because there's no demonstrable parallel between X and Y/Z based on the parameters used to define X.

or, in real terms, the logic, history, contemporary meaning, precedent, and support behind removing the redskins team name simply does not exist for the saints logo. so it's a logical fallacy to argue that changing the redskins team name will invariably lead to changing whatever else is suddenly offensive. and, frankly, it's ridiculous.