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Dan Graziano: Receivers aren't the issue in Carolina


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Every single team has people talking about unproven players that they are optimistic about in the offseason.  The same argument you made in support of Remmers was probably said about Nate Chandler last year.  He had a good finish in 2013.  I think people were saying PFF has positive grades on him.  In this league, everyone on the outside is going to doubt you until you indisputably prove yourself.  If you are not a sure thing, people are gonna point that out.  And even when you do start playing well, it takes awhile for people to notice.

He, Turner, and Norwell all graded positively.  

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Hes done very well.  And while every analyst destroys the lack of offensive lineman we've had the past well two years.  Did he upgrade over Bell?  Sure, but was it an upgrade from absolutely horrible to good?  fug no, it went from absolutely horrible to bad.  

I can agree with you on that. Until Oher can prove otherwise, he is what he was in BAL and TEN. But that's better than what we had last year.

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DG traded up twice in this draft to get other players at other positions. He said himself we were going for the LT Humphries who got picked by the Cardinals one spot ahead of us. He must firmly believe Oher can play. If he fails, it's squarely on DG. 

If DG trades up for a first round bust, that's squarely on DG also. When players he drafts succeed, that's on DG as well.
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As I said earlier, Humphries was one pick ahead of us so at that point I doubt it would have cost us a lot to go get him. Of course the Cards may not have wanted to do a trade anyways. 

This isn't a DG critique, it's merely answering the question of what else could he have done. Last year he said Bell was left handed, hopefully Oher doesn't turn out like Bell. 

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As I said earlier, Humphries was one pick ahead of us so at that point I doubt it would have cost us a lot to go get him. Of course the Cards may not have wanted to do a trade anyways. 

This isn't a DG critique, it's merely answering the question of what else could he have done. Last year he said Bell was left handed, hopefully Oher doesn't turn out like Bell. 

I get that you're not meaning to criticize; but I'm trying to point out that you can't know if someone you're targeting is going to be taken before you get the chance. Even if you think the Cards were going to take him, you'd have to trade up with the Broncos which may not have even been a possibility. 

I get that Humphries would have been an additional step to be taken, but they may not have felt that he was worth trading up in the first.

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As I said earlier, Humphries was one pick ahead of us so at that point I doubt it would have cost us a lot to go get him. Of course the Cards may not have wanted to do a trade anyways. 

This isn't a DG critique, it's merely answering the question of what else could he have done. Last year he said Bell was left handed, hopefully Oher doesn't turn out like Bell. 

I get that you're not meaning to criticize; but I'm trying to point out that you can't know if someone you're targeting is going to be taken before you get the chance. Even if you think the Cards were going to take him, you'd have to trade up with the Broncos which may not have even been a possibility. 

I get that Humphries would have been an additional step to be taken, but they may not have felt that he was worth trading up in the first.

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when people bring up our wr core and oline as a huge weakness i cant tell they dont follow this team. our wr core upgraded astronomically we added tedd gin which had a great season 2 years ago , we got a star in kelvin benjamin , we drafted another beast 6 foot 5 wr in funchess that knows every wr position, we got a young star in corey brown that is getting better every week .

now on to the oline , our oline isnt as bad as everyone thinks. oher and martin might not be great but they are upgrades over chandler and bell.  norwell and turner had  a solid rookie year , i believe they both did not give up a sack . remmers turned our oline around and created holes for stewart last 5 games and we also drafted a hog mollie in d, williams that dident give up a sack last season  

I'd like to know who the 12 people are who voted

No, our receivers have not upgraded in the poll.

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Hes done very well.  And while every analyst destroys the lack of offensive lineman we've had the past well two years.  Did he upgrade over Bell?  Sure, but was it an upgrade from absolutely horrible to good?  fug no, it went from absolutely horrible to bad.  

your panties are showing.

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Waited through the advertisement then as the video started to play I read this post and left.

To be fair, Boykin gave reason to be hopeful in the recent past.  However, he seems to be on the Tiquan Underwood Roster Spot Assurance plan.

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Oh, I don't have a problem with what he says,  as long as people understand it is about as informed as an average message board topic. 

Are you insinuating that some people on this message board make post without out having any clue to what's really going on? 

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