Other team's cuts

[frash.exe]

Hargrove is actually like Brayton, pretty ironic that you bring him up. He's playing the 3-tech for the 1st time in his career after being a DE(vice versa to Brayton) and Williams thinks he be a LaRoi Glover clone.

This guy Sands is simply a DT who can't even make it on to Oakland's roster, which is beyond sad considering the Raiders may have the worst d-line in the league.

one could very easily make the valid argument that they don't know what they're doing in oakland

[KillerKat]

Brayton opted out.

I wonder why...

Perhaps being on a team with a sh*tty staff?

[Saint J]

Brayton was playing DT and wanted to return to his roots as a DE, what's Sands reasons for mis-management? it's not like this guy is 1st round talent, he was picked in the 7th round.

[klumme]

This guy Sands is simply a DT who can't even make it on to Oakland's roster, which is beyond sad considering the Raiders may have the worst d-line in the league.

Which also could be an argument to why he has not succeded. Maybe a new home can make him better and also play on much better line.

My point was you can´t rate a player by the team he played for. Jason David came from the SB champs... How did that work out?

[KillerKat]

Brayton was playing DT and wanted to return to his roots as a DE, what's Sands reasons for mis-management? it's not like this guy is 1st round talent, he was picked in the 7th round.

And who's bright idea was it to move him in the first place?

[Saint J]

Right, but all these players were known as talents and played big roles on their former teams(Brayton, Hargrove, Moss, David, etc.) Terdell Sands is a 7th round draft pick from '01 that can't even make the 2009 Oakland roster.

[klumme]

David went from a big role to nothing. It could go and actually do goes the other way around sometimes.

Change of scenery can do a lot.

BTW Sands role is just as big with the Raiders as Braytons was.

[Saint J]

Sands started 14 games over six years in Oakland, Brayton started 47.

[klumme]

The Raiders let them both walk... = Same role. Sure Sands was cutted and Brayton was just not resigned but Raiders must have looked at them both and thought they could do without them.

BUT

Again that was not the point of my post.

Change of scenery can do a lot. If you suck on team A you dont have to suck on team B and the other way around.

[Saint J]

I agree, I've seen it plenty myself. However, Brayton was a 1st round pick who was miscast as a DT. Sands is a 7th round pick who hasn't done much at his natural position.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I hate to have to agree with the resident Saints fan but Sands is complete garbage. The guy is not a "big run stuffer" he's FAT and gets shoved on his ass every play.

It's a completely different situation from Brayton who got moved around constantly, even to the point where they played him at LBer.

[jasonluckydog]

Ian Johnson

Brian Brohm

John David Booty

axed

[Boltergeist]

Ian Scott cut by the Chargers.

L.J. Shelton as well.

[XClown1986]

Ian Scott cut by the Chargers.

theres our man.