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Okay this is bad: Boston offered 6 picks for the 9th overall pick


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They threw in some Bitcoins late I hear too ... but seriously, even w/o the offer rumors, I'm still pissed.  Fug this team and fug all you ... fuggers

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Edit: No.  We'll be just fine.  I can't wait to watch Frank ball out and make me look bad.  ROY, here comes Frank the fuggin' Tank

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Hmmm, that's interesting this article I posted is not in there and there was no mention of 6 picks in that entire thread.  Fascinating, not to mention the thread title is absolutely horrible.  

I know, it's almost like that's a thread talking about the Celtics potentially trading a lot to the Hornets, and you're talking about the Celtics potentially trading a lot to the Hornets, but it's like, totally different and stuff.

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This is really far fetched. Does anyone really belive all that would be given up for the 9th pick?

Yes. And I completely understand why we rejected it, if it was true.

Unlike the NFL, where you have 70 or so roster slots and you win via depth over the course of the season, in the NBA, you only carry 12 guys on the roster, so by the law of averages a single draft pick has almost seven times more impact on the team performance than in the NFL. As such, you want that player to be as talented and impactful as possible, depending on where your franchise is in terms of building a team.

In terms of the draft, typically the most impactful players lie in the first ten best players of the draft. Beyond that, the success of your pick lies in the skill of your scouting, the fit within your system, etc. This is why the lottery was instituted and why a team like Philly is purposefully trying to wind up with the best odds to be in that "impact" range every season.

In terms of this deal, Boston spent years tearing down their championship core to get future picks in hopes of packaging them for various core assets to help their rebuild in the future. The problem is all those picks they accumulated never wound up in the typical "impact" range of assets, leaving them with a bunch of late-firsts and 2nds that built them a young and flexible roster, but ultimately one with no star power. Ainge saw an opportunity here to try and steal Winslow, the problem is he grossly overestimated the value of those picks which he accumulated, and now they're still stuck drafting role players, the fans hated the picks, and Ainge is having to try and save face by throwing the dunce cap on the one guy everyone loves to mock when it comes to management.

If you're Charlotte, you are looking for an impact player now so you can have a decent team on the floor by the time the NBA and the world descends on the city in 2017. I hate they passed up Winslow and via the trades gave up a ton of future potential, but in that sense I understand why they did it, and Kaminsky is a guy that will be able to compete from day one as opposed to any of those picks Ainge was offering.

Saw this on Twitter, but Ainge is basically that guy offering you Fred Jackson, Mercedes Lewis, Ted Ginn and the Bengals defense in fantasy football and is upset you won't give him Adrian Peterson.

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C90 at the end hit on the value of this deal.

 

2nd round picks main value in today's NBA is its worth around 1 million. Truthly Boston's 28th first rounder is worth less than 31st overall pick. Teams know the players so well these days, very very few surprises. Late round first results the talent pool is dry, so you're stuck paying a bench warmer millions for three or so years. Its a waste of cap space and roster space.

 

Checkout the current FA market, its flooded with guys you know can give you solid minutes for the same cost. Of course there are rare expections, like the spurs drafting great late in the draft. That was also a few years ago too. Lastly I'd be super leary of trading for east coast picks. You may think you're getting a lotto pick, but any team could go on a run and make the playoffs. Imo after the 14th pick in this years draft their was no/very little difference(talentwise) between the next 40 picks. Except you're on hook for more money in the first.

 

So if Boston did offer 3-6 picks starting at #4, everyone else knew they where worthless in a sense. They don't fix problems they create more problems. 

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