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Carl Spackler

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Batum could have a career year and resign on the vet min and we will still look like fools if vonleh comes even remotely close to his potential over the next few years.  Unbelievably unnecessary risky deal for what it is.  Only thing that will pull this out of the dumpster is if we some how end up with Russell or Mudiay.  Its not Batum that i have a problem with.  Its just he isn't worth the risk.  We missed on Hayward... Team just needs to get over it.  Vonleh and 9 might've been enough to move us up a few spots.  Instead we got Batum for a year and moved up closer against the cap.  Dude better make the all star team next year.

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