Question for our resident Seahawk Fan/Mod

[FuFuLamePoo]

Do people realize Cam inherited one of the worst offenses in NFL History outside of Panther fans?

[ctrcat]

Do people realize Cam inherited one of the worst offenses in NFL History outside of Panther fans?

Some do, IMO many either don't care, love their own team so much they have blinders, or hate Cam so much they have blinders, that this fact is conveniently ignored.  Us against the world brother.

[Squirrel]

I think this is Hawk's hibernation period

Actually this is the only month with no snow. I'm sure he is enjoying his one month summer. 

[X-Clown on 1]

Wilson is too ugly to be the face of Orkos Yougurt.....nuff said.

[csx]

I like Wilson as a player 5x more than I do as a disingenuous faker of a person he comes off as.

[kungfoodude]

Here was Hawk's reaction on Twitter. @Canadian12thMan: Losing record, losing playoff record, going to make over 20 million per season. Ain't life grand!!!!

The success to compensation certainly doesn't match but there are some other factors to consider. The cast around Cam has been pretty subpar overall and the price was also largely dictated by what the market was for franchise(or at least perceived franchise) QB's. Most people that don't follow the Panthers are probably going to look at this and shake their heads or laugh. Our fanbase knows that it isn't as simple as some of the statistics may make it seem.

[Snake]

Hawk has been kidnapped by hipsters. Don't worry though he will turn up in a Canadian gay bar in a few days. Probably drinking a cool glass of maple syrup. 

[Hawk]

been busy boys...but being you asked...here are my honest thoughts

been here a really long time and I have to admire the support the huddle has always given the panthers, in good times and bad.  I fully appreciate the homerism of the huddle and it should be no other way really...all fan based forums certainly had better be that way.

all that said, I honestly think that Cam is a really good quarterback that just got an elite QB's contract.  In my opinion, Cam hasn't done enough to prove that he should be considered a true elite QB.  I also would worry about his longevity with the style of game he plays.  As he ages I think he will need to realize that he needs to get down, out of bounds or whatever it takes to start minimizing the number of big big hits that he has been taking over his first 4 years.  When that happens, I think his value to the team decreases some because in my opinion his strength is in his legs and size and he's not accurate enough to be classified as an elite QB.

Now the question was around Wilson and his contract now that Cam has this one signed.  My turn to let my homerism shine through.  I think Wilson is a better QB than Newton.  I think he's smarter, he's more elusive and he hasn't taken near the amount of punishment that Cam has.  Everyone automatically says that Wilson is lucky!  Personally I think he's very good at extending plays that look like they are over, he scrambles well and still is able to make some pretty nice throws under pressure.  I'm not saying Cam doesn't do this, I just think Wilson does it better.  I'd also challenge that Wilson hasn't really had any great receivers to throw the ball to either...good, but not great.  Clearly Wilson has benefitted from having Lynch in the backfield and a great defense as well.

I think in the end you get rewarded for two things...your net worth to the team for the future and for results already provided.  Newton was rewarded for his net worth and his potential, Wilson will get rewarded for his results and his potential.  I'm guessing in the 25 per season range.

People will argue that if you swapped Wilson and Newton that Newton would have way better stats because of the defense and Lynch etc...but at the same time, the Seahawks built their team around Wilson, pretty sure that's the recipe for success!

 

you asked, I provided....flame away.

[Hawk]

I like Wilson as a player 5x more than I do as a disingenuous faker of a person he comes off as.

​curious why you think he is fake?  All I have ever seen or heard of him seems to be pretty damn legit.  Just curious what your thoughts are or why you and others think this?

[ACobra289]

been busy boys...but being you asked...here are my honest thoughts

been here a really long time and I have to admire the support the huddle has always given the panthers, in good times and bad.  I fully appreciate the homerism of the huddle and it should be no other way really...all fan based forums certainly had better be that way.

all that said, I honestly think that Cam is a really good quarterback that just got an elite QB's contract.  In my opinion, Cam hasn't done enough to prove that he should be considered a true elite QB.  I also would worry about his longevity with the style of game he plays.  As he ages I think he will need to realize that he needs to get down, out of bounds or whatever it takes to start minimizing the number of big big hits that he has been taking over his first 4 years.  When that happens, I think his value to the team decreases some because in my opinion his strength is in his legs and size and he's not accurate enough to be classified as an elite QB.

Now the question was around Wilson and his contract now that Cam has this one signed.  My turn to let my homerism shine through.  I think Wilson is a better QB than Newton.  I think he's smarter, he's more elusive and he hasn't taken near the amount of punishment that Cam has.  Everyone automatically says that Wilson is lucky!  Personally I think he's very good at extending plays that look like they are over, he scrambles well and still is able to make some pretty nice throws under pressure.  I'm not saying Cam doesn't do this, I just think Wilson does it better.  I'd also challenge that Wilson hasn't really had any great receivers to throw the ball to either...good, but not great.  Clearly Wilson has benefitted from having Lynch in the backfield and a great defense as well.

I think in the end you get rewarded for two things...your net worth to the team for the future and for results already provided.  Newton was rewarded for his net worth and his potential, Wilson will get rewarded for his results and his potential.  I'm guessing in the 25 per season range.

People will argue that if you swapped Wilson and Newton that Newton would have way better stats because of the defense and Lynch etc...but at the same time, the Seahawks built their team around Wilson, pretty sure that's the recipe for success!

 

you asked, I provided....flame away.

​Is that really your twitter that SCP quoted?

[Mr. Scot]

Appreciate the commentary, Hawk.

I'd also like to know how the fanbase in general is reacting.  Do they think the Panthers drove Wilson's price up? Are they happy someone set the market? More concerned about Luck now? What are they saying?

[Hawk]

 

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​Is that really your twitter that SCP quoted?

​yup...and while it might be taken as a shot towards Cam, that was not the case, it was a shot at the league in general and on how the salaries have escalated like crazy!

 

the 2nd one was aimed specifically at the huddlers that I know follow me or read my garble!

[Hawk]

Appreciate the commentary, Hawk.

I'd also like to know how the fanbase in general is reacting.  Do they think the Panthers drove Wilson's price up? Are they happy someone set the market? More concerned about Luck now? What are they saying?

​most Hawk fans knew Wilson was going to get paid and paid large.  Just like the huddles love of Cam, the 12th man loves Wilson too.  I think in general from what I've seen most think Cam's numbers will drive Wilson's numbers even hire and I also think alot of Seahawk fans are curious to see what happens with Luck.  As mentioned by others previously in this thread, many 12's are wondering how the front office is going to make it all happen with so many other big contracts already in place...myself included.

[ACobra289]

​yup...and while it might be taken as a shot towards Cam, that was not the case, it was a shot at the league in general and on how the salaries have escalated like crazy!

 

the 2nd one was aimed specifically at the huddlers that I know follow me or read my garble!

​Might be taken at a shot? You are full of poo man. It was an obvious dig at Cam.

I still don't understand why you are a mod here. Especially with your negative comments about the Panthers and Cam. Maybe you are Jeremy's boy, I don't know.