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Drafting PF makes the most sense...


Wundrbread33

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...because it makes no sense. if I were a betting man, I'd bet we draft the same position three years running.

 

I'm terrified there will be a BPA there that will fill a need like Hezonja, and we will pass on him for Kaminsky or Turner.

 

Anyone else have this feeling in the pit of their stomach?

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Taking BPA isn't a bad thing. The problem is when you stockpile talent at a certain position without trying to do something with the players you already have there.

Case in point: If LA passes on one of the bigs to take Russell, Philly will probably take that big because he's BPA. And when they do, they will have three very nice tradeable assets they can move around as they please. For them, it's about finding the player with the best star potential.

I loved the Vonleh pick, but it only works if Cody, who I don't see as anything more than a role player long term, is moved for either a future pick or another player at a different position. Either that, or try him at the 5.

I don't mind drafting a Cauley-Stein or Turner if Mario isn't on the board, but if that's the case, we need to move on from Biz and, next year, Al.

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Stanley johnson should be our pick. Athletic enough to guard the 2. Slide him over there and I can see him being like a Jimmy butler. Athletic can handle. While butler can shoot better, he couldn't when he came into the league. Really want Stanley johnson. Plus at the 2 his size would make a great advantage over smaller ones. Imagine him against Bradley beal. He could shut him down and beal would need help defending him as he could use his height to his advantage. Just my 2 cents

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The majority of mocks I've read have a draft order something like:

1. Towns, 2. Okafor, 3. Russell, 4. Mudiay, 5. Winslow, 6. Porzingis, 7. Hezonja, 8. Johnson

That leaves the following players who tend to come next in many different orders:

- PG: Cameron Payne

- SG: Devin Booker

- SF: Sam Dekker, Kelly Oubre

- PF: Trey Lyles, Bobby Portis

- C: Willie Cauley-Stein, Myles Turner, Frank Kaminsky

 

I'd love to see us draft WCS. He's very athletic, and a decent shot blocker and rebounder. At worst he should be able to develop into a Dalembert type player, if not reach an even higher ceiling than that. He may always be more limited offensively, but he'd give us an excellent center prospect to build around, and we could even move Al Jefferson to PF.

The alternative would be to add Kelly Oubre, Sam Dekker, or Devin Booker to give us more shooting. Someone like Booker could develop into an excellent starter at SG, letting us move Henderson to sixth man, and trade Stephenson. Though Oubre is an intriguing player, very athletic, decent shooter, and has the talent to be a starter.

 

I'd be happy pick from WCS, Booker, Oubre or Dekker.

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The majority of mocks I've read have a draft order something like:

1. Towns, 2. Okafor, 3. Russell, 4. Mudiay, 5. Winslow, 6. Porzingis, 7. Hezonja, 8. Johnson

That leaves the following players who tend to come next in many different orders:

- PG: Cameron Payne

- SG: Devin Booker

- SF: Sam Dekker, Kelly Oubre

- PF: Trey Lyles, Bobby Portis

- C: Willie Cauley-Stein, Myles Turner, Frank Kaminsky

 

I'd love to see us draft WCS. He's very athletic, and a decent shot blocker and rebounder. At worst he should be able to develop into a Dalembert type player, if not reach an even higher ceiling than that. He may always be more limited offensively, but he'd give us an excellent center prospect to build around, and we could even move Al Jefferson to PF.

The alternative would be to add Kelly Oubre, Sam Dekker, or Devin Booker to give us more shooting. Someone like Booker could develop into an excellent starter at SG, letting us move Henderson to sixth man, and trade Stephenson. Though Oubre is an intriguing player, very athletic, decent shooter, and has the talent to be a starter.

 

I'd be happy pick from WCS, Booker, Oubre or Dekker.

​I actually like WCS as well, but he is redundant considering how we have another player the same age that does the same things in Biz. Biz is more of the rim protector where WCS can guard literally every position.

If he is the best player available, then fine.

My point with this thread is this: I have this gut feeling that one of the wing prospects we want is going to be there, who many would consider BPA as well...and we will pass for an underwhelming selection.

 

Guess I just need to get rid of this negative draft mindset I am in...

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​I actually like WCS as well, but he is redundant considering how we have another player the same age that does the same things in Biz. Biz is more of the rim protector where WCS can guard literally every position.

If he is the best player available, then fine.

My point with this thread is this: I have this gut feeling that one of the wing prospects we want is going to be there, who many would consider BPA as well...and we will pass for an underwhelming selection.

 

Guess I just need to get rid of this negative draft mindset I am in...

To be honest, I think you're right that there will be at least one worth wing prospect available when we are on the clock. I've recently seen Stanley Johnson fall to #11, Trey Lyles up to #8, and WCS up to #9 in a mock draft (nbadraft.net). For me, if Stanley Johnson is available at #9 then I'd hope that we would draft him because he would be the BPA, same way if someone like Hezonja or Winslow took an unexpected tumble. But outside of them, are wings like Booker, Oubre, and Dekker the BPA at #9 if the top eight is the same as what I posted last time?

I'm not sure. Dekker is a solid all round prospect that is pretty much NBA ready. Whereas Oubre is raw, but has a ton of potential. And Booker is somewhere inbetween. All three fit a need, but an argument could be made that the likes of Trey Lyles, WCS, or even Turner is the next best player available. 

I feel that this team is built in a similar fashion to the Grizzlies. We are based on defense, and while extra scoring is required, I wouldn't be surprised if they did draft another big. And to be honest, I wouldn't consider it negative either because someone like WCS could develop into an excellent center. I appreciate we have Biyombo, but his offense is extremely limited averaging a handful of points, whereas I could see WCS developing his shot and play making ability to perhaps get double digit points. I'd probably say if we went for another PF it might be overkill, but Lyles is a decent stretch four prospect that could help us immediately, whereas the jury is still out on Zeller, and Vonleh is still very raw. 

Personally I hope that one of Stanley Johnson, Justice Winslow, or Mario Hezonja fall to us at #9. If they aren't available, I'd be happy with us taking a chance on Booker or Oubre. Though I can't help but see how WCS or even Lyle could help us.

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WCS would cement this roster being a dumpster fire. He is a good player but not the guy this team can afford to draft this season. He would be nothing more than a rotation piece behind AL, Zeller, Noah and possibly Biyombo.   It has to be a guy who could compete as a starter. 

 The LAST thing this team needs is another limited offensive player and throwing out the same freaking pooh lineup of Henderson and Marvin Williams. 

Addressing an outside shooter/scorer that is mature and does not get suspended is THE need.  

at 9 that looks like Booker or the PG. If we trade up I agree with others it should be Winslow or Hezonja.   This team just needs another alpha-type scorer who actually can. 

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