Still a litte Confused why we passed over .......

[Mr. Scot]

So 7 wins it is, cause last year was an eyesore on offense.

And you seem to be one of those internet guys. It's hilarious you think just cause they have a job in an NFL FO they no what they are doing.

Your also implying those receivers wouldn't have helped us in the future for some odd reason.

 

Oy

 

Keep running with that, kid.  Maybe somebody will take you seriously.

[top dawg]

It's not the early rounds that really bother me, it's the later rounds that may cause my blood to boil.  I fully think that sometimes it's OK to take a flyer on a guy who seems to have some potential at a position of need.  Gettleman's philosophy seems to carry all the way through the draft, period. At the end of the day I am not going to get rankled over a flyer though, especially when the higher picks produce at a higher than expected or exceptional level.  

 

This year was a little different in that you have to be aggressive to get whom you believe are exceptional values at their respective positions before they are all sn@thed up. Funchess was one of those guys, Strong wasn't.

[Rockahype]

Did he also grow up in their back yard, go to the same college as their head coach and have their WR coach host and throw at his pro day?

 

He was also a heart to heart with grandma away from quitting the NFL one week into his career.

 

Maybe he lied about finding the $100 bill in the back of the play book.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[magnus]

You like 7 wins don't you? LMAO

since it might need to be explicitly spelled out, reaching for need is a problem.  BPA, or even trading up for a guy you have rated way higher, that gets you a good player at good value.  Let someone else reach for trash. 

 

Mr. Scot is fully right about this, and about internet "scouts". Players are boarded from day one and then those rankings constantly change based on anything from hearsay to rumors to a single 40 time when the tape shows what it shows.  

 

Kelvin Benjamin ended '13 a top 15 pick, then he wasn't quite as fast at 240 lbs as people generically expect of a 200 lb guy, then someone posted a rumor, then all of a sudden he's a 45 pick.  Carolina did their own work, had him I'm assuming top 15 or 20, and then a bunch of goobers looked him up on the internet and some had 45 pick on him.  All of a sudden people are pissing and moaning we didn't get Marquise Lee instead (something something doomed to repeat something something).  Maybe Strong will be incredible, maybe not.  He's not here so at best you're concerned over something that can never exist.

 

 

For what it's worth, put me down as someone lamenting we didn't get Keenan Allen.  But, he probably wasn't worth a 2 at that point, and our 3 was Greg Olsen, and so I guess I'll just have to deal with having one of the top 5 TEs in the league.

 

Also put me down as someone glad Carolina has two young receivers, so that now maybe the fanbase can move on from wanting to draft 2-3 WR every year.

[Mr. Scot]

since it might need to be explicitly spelled out, reaching for need is a problem.  BPA, or even trading up for a guy you have rated way higher, that gets you a good player at good value.  Let someone else reach for trash. 

 

Mr. Scot is fully right about this, and about internet "scouts". Players are boarded from day one and then those rankings constantly change based on anything from hearsay to rumors to a single 40 time when the tape shows what it shows.  

 

Kelvin Benjamin ended '13 a top 15 pick, then he wasn't quite as fast at 240 lbs as people generically expect of a 200 lb guy, then someone posted a rumor, then all of a sudden he's a 45 pick.  Carolina did their own work, had him I'm assuming top 15 or 20, and then a bunch of goobers looked him up on the internet and some had 45 pick on him.  All of a sudden people are pissing and moaning we didn't get Marquise Lee instead (something something doomed to repeat something something).  Maybe Strong will be incredible, maybe not.  He's not here so at best you're concerned over something that can never exist.

 

 

For what it's worth, put me down as someone lamenting we didn't get Keenan Allen.  But, he probably wasn't worth a 2 at that point, and our 3 was Greg Olsen, and so I guess I'll just have to deal with having one of the top 5 TEs in the league.

 

Also put me down as someone glad Carolina has two young receivers, so that now maybe the fanbase can move on from wanting to draft 2-3 WR every year.

 

Thanks, Mags.  Always a pleasure...

 

[csx]

You like 7 wins don't you? LMAO

Are you trying to be an edgy internet twerp or are you just legitimately stupid?

[GoobyPls]

since it might need to be explicitly spelled out, reaching for need is a problem.  BPA, or even trading up for a guy you have rated way higher, that gets you a good player at good value.  Let someone else reach for trash. 

 

Mr. Scot is fully right about this, and about internet "scouts". Players are boarded from day one and then those rankings constantly change based on anything from hearsay to rumors to a single 40 time when the tape shows what it shows.  

 

Kelvin Benjamin ended '13 a top 15 pick, then he wasn't quite as fast at 240 lbs as people generically expect of a 200 lb guy, then someone posted a rumor, then all of a sudden he's a 45 pick.  Carolina did their own work, had him I'm assuming top 15 or 20, and then a bunch of goobers looked him up on the internet and some had 45 pick on him.  All of a sudden people are pissing and moaning we didn't get Marquise Lee instead (something something doomed to repeat something something).  Maybe Strong will be incredible, maybe not.  He's not here so at best you're concerned over something that can never exist.

 

 

For what it's worth, put me down as someone lamenting we didn't get Keenan Allen.  But, he probably wasn't worth a 2 at that point, and our 3 was Greg Olsen, and so I guess I'll just have to deal with having one of the top 5 TEs in the league.

 

Also put me down as someone glad Carolina has two young receivers, so that now maybe the fanbase can move on from wanting to draft 2-3 WR every year.

 

What are you even talking about?

 

My whole point is that we whiffed on not drafting another receiver last year along with Benjamin. Is it so hard to admit the front office made a mistake by not drafting Bryant, Brown or Moncrief?

[Udogg]

LMAO all those teams you named didn't even need receivers.

And how was it reaching when all those guys turned out good if not great their rookie season.

You would have to be insane to think if we could re draft we wouldn't pick up another receiver.

I forgot who I'm talking to, Mr front office can do no wrong. Put it this way if we picked Bryant, Brown or Moncrief we would easily been over .500

 

You think another WR would have brought us over .500 last year? 

 

Point 1:  We gave up 37 to Steelers.  38 to Ravens, 37 (tie) to Bengals , 28 to saints, 45 to eagles , 31 to the f$%$ vikings.

Point 2:  You can't do anything consistent on offense unless your Oline is solid.  Our Oline wasn't solid till week 14.

Point 3:  Shula is the Offensive coordinator.

Point 4:  The draft isn't an exact science, however waiting till a player succeeds then going back and saying we should have drafted them is?  Post would have held more water if you made it before the draft with those exact names mentioned.

 

If your argument was about an offensive lineman I could agree. but if you think WR was the reason we only won 7 games you weren't paying attention.

 

If you doubt me, look at any of our losses on NFL game pass, and look at Bell, Silatolu and Chandler.  There were rarely any plays were at least 1 of them didn't F up horribly. 

[Seamonk]

We only won 7 games cuz we were a pretty crap -team- most of the season. It took most of the season to find a groove and turn it on. Unless the WRs we could have drafted would have made some sort of miracle catches in the games we fk'd up, there's no guessing if we would have won anymore games. It's poor logic to assume the addition of one WR who may not even be top2 on the roster would have made that great of a difference. There's too many factors involved to win a game for that. We would have had to win at least 3 more games to even affect Playoff seeding in hindsight.

 

[GoobyPls]

You think another WR would have brought us over .500 last year? 

 

Point 1:  We gave up 37 to Steelers.  38 to Ravens, 37 (tie) to Bengals , 28 to saints, 45 to eagles , 31 to the f$%$ vikings.

Point 2:  You can't do anything consistent on offense unless your Oline is solid.  Our Oline wasn't solid till week 14.

Point 3:  Shula is the Offensive coordinator.

Point 4:  The draft isn't an exact science, however waiting till a player succeeds then going back and saying we should have drafted them is?  Post would have held more water if you made it before the draft with those exact names mentioned.

 

If your argument was about an offensive lineman I could agree. but if you think WR was the reason we only won 7 games you weren't paying attention.

 

If you doubt me, look at any of our losses on NFL game pass, and look at Bell, Silatolu and Chandler.  There were rarely any plays were at least 1 of them didn't F up horribly. 

Replace Cotchery with any of those 3 in the Bengals games and we win it, no doubt in my mind. That's .500

 

Against the Saints and Falcons our receivers got ZERO separation and that Falcons game was up for grabs, that's at least another win between those 2

 

And vs Seattle they focused all their attention on Benjamin and Olsen and the other receivers didn't do jack. 

 

And yes I was campaigning for us to draft Bryant or Robinson matter of fact I wanted us to go 1 and 2 WR, like we did with DT in 2013.

 

Yes the line was terrible last season, but there were times when they actually gave Cam time but the receivers couldn't get open. Specifically the Seattle and Atlanta games

 

And lets talk facts here Boston and Ealy barely even contributed last season, at one point Ealy was ranked the worst DE in the league, last time we saw Boston he was getting toasted.

 

[Panthers8969]

So how many teammates went to his birthday party? Actually curious

[Panthers8969]

Also I was find it funny when someone calls someone else kid on the Internet

[heel31ok]

He went 29 picks after Funchess, so nearly every team had a shot at him but passed.

 

 and ?... means nothing

 

[magnus]

What are you even talking about?

 

My whole point is that we whiffed on not drafting another receiver last year along with Benjamin. Is it so hard to admit the front office made a mistake by not drafting Bryant, Brown or Moncrief?

I don't think it'd be hard to admit it was a mistake, if I felt like it was a mistake.  They picked the player they had rated highest.  I really don't have a problem with this team believing that Kony Ealy is a better player than 90th overall Donte Moncrief.  They're both players,  But you don't reach for an almost-4th round WR because of a WR hard-on, in the 2nd round.