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Eastern Conference Finals Thread

MichaelNewtonII

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​.  Call me crazy man but MJ's Bulls teams were so stacked.  He left to play baseball for a year and they still won 50 games and almost made the ECF.  LeBron has single handily carried this run down Cavs team to the finals.  Not to mention LeBron is hurt himself, he has ankle and back injuries he's playing through.  If he somehow beats one of the best teams ever there's nothing wrong with putting him ahead of MJ.  Basically this Warriors team may be better than any team MJ ever beat.  So if LeBron somehow pulls this off it would  be an unbelievable accomplishment.  

Exactly what I told chuck. MJ had great surrounding cast, the bulls went to a game 7 with the Knicks and almost went to ecf after winning over 50 games. I doubt the cavs without lebron would do anything near that
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Lol is this serious?

And the LeBron/Magic comp refers to their playing style. LeBron has always been more of a fan of getting his teammates involved and running the show (one of his early pitfalls, we wanted him to be more of the "assassin" takeover type, which he discovered in Miami.) Magic pioneered the "point forward." Lebron has added the athleticism.

Again, the closest we have ever seen to another MJ in terms of style is Kobe Bryant, but folks just HAVE to believe that what they are watching right now is the greatest thing ever.

​We're not talking about styles, we're talking about legacy, and where he'll rank among the all-time greats.  Of course Kobe is the more apt comparison to Jordan's style... he literally copy and pasted nearly every single one of Jordan's moves and mannerisms.  He tried his damnest to be a carbon copy of the man.  I also agree LeBron is more Magic than Jordan, but that's still a lazy comparison.  LeBron is LeBron.  There's never been a LeBron.

But realistically, from an individual player-to-player standpoint, LeBron is better than Kobe ever was.  This coming from someone who loves some Kobe too.  The only ones that have a hard time accepting this are Kobe die hards who take it personal that LeBron is better for whatever reason.

My original comment didn't have anything to do with comparing LeBron and Jordan, I just prefaced by saying "MJ is still the GOAT, but I can't think of another player in NBA history who's done this" in reference to LeBron, basically by himself, with a bunch of role players and banged up to hell and back... having his team up 3-0 in the ECF about to drag his team to the Finals.  IF he wins a title against that Warriors team... this is going to be a season for the fuging ages for LeBron.

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Exactly what I told chuck. MJ had great surrounding cast, the bulls went to a game 7 with the Knicks and almost went to ecf after winning over 50 games. I doubt the cavs without lebron would do anything near that

​The Cavs without LeBron went immediately from a 66 win team to one of the worst teams in the league.  I also don't see Miami in the playoffs this year either even after discovering a budding superstar big man in Hassan Whiteside, which LeBron didn't have while there - which was also their biggest need by far the entire time he was there.

LeBron goes back to the Cavs, who were still one of the worst teams in the league, and now has them about to head to the fuging Finals.  Without Kyrie, and without Love.

Lol, he's pretty much carrying that garbage ass Knicks team to the Finals that was supposedly "so bad" that even a "superstar" like Carmelo couldn't make it to the playoffs with.

Even if he doesn't get a ring this year, something needs to be said for just how much better he instantly makes a team.  He's by far the best player on the planet.

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Cavs might lose game 4 on purpose, and avoid sweeping the Hawks, just to give Kyrie a little more time to get healthy. 

Lebron is amazing. His stat line from last night is crazy! He's going to carry his team to a possible sweep over the #1 seed. 

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​The Cavs without LeBron went immediately from a 66 win team to one of the worst teams in the league.  I also don't see Miami in the playoffs this year either even after discovering a budding superstar big man in Hassan Whiteside, which LeBron didn't have while there - which was also their biggest need by far the entire time he was there.

LeBron goes back to the Cavs, who were still one of the worst teams in the league, and now has them about to head to the fuging Finals.  Without Kyrie, and without Love.

Lol, he's pretty much carrying that garbage ass Knicks team to the Finals that was supposedly "so bad" that even a "superstar" like Carmelo couldn't make it to the playoffs with.

Even if he doesn't get a ring this year, something needs to be said for just how much better he instantly makes a team.  He's by far the best player on the planet.

There will never ever be another talent like LeBron James. I Appreciate what I get To see and I root for LeBron to win the title every year because I know damn well charlotte has no chance to at this time
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There will never ever be another talent like LeBron James.

Could you be any more hyperbolic?

I like LeBron James. I appreciate his style of play. I love what he's done for this generation of the NBA. But I hate the thought process of LeBron James fanboys. Because of statements like this^. 

He has a whopping TWO championships. He's in his twelfth season. If he can't beat the Warriors, how much does he have left for the prime of his career?

He will be in the Hall of Fame and all that good stuff, but the idea that he's some unparalleled talent we will never see again is just a bit of a stretch.

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Cavs might lose game 4 on purpose, and avoid sweeping the Hawks, just to give Kyrie a little more time to get healthy. 

Lebron is amazing. His stat line from last night is crazy! He's going to carry his team to a possible sweep over the #1 seed. 

​Finals start June 4th, no matter when these series end. Cav's need the rest as a team.

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Could you be any more hyperbolic?

I like LeBron James. I appreciate his style of play. I love what he's done for this generation of the NBA. But I hate the thought process of LeBron James fanboys. Because of statements like this^. 

He has a whopping TWO championships. He's in his twelfth season. If he can't beat the Warriors, how much does he have left for the prime of his career?

He will be in the Hall of Fame and all that good stuff, but the idea that he's some unparalleled talent we will never see again is just a bit of a stretch.

Tell me when you think you'll ever see another combination of size, speed, strength, pretty much all around athleticism, and skill like lebron, who also makes his teammates way better than they are.. look at the players he has had such a positive effect on and just how much he affects Any team he's on. No one has ever done that and probably never will
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Tell me when you think you'll ever see another combination of size, speed, strength, pretty much all around athleticism, and skill like lebron, who also makes his teammates way better than they are.. look at the players he has had such a positive effect on and just how much he affects Any team he's on. No one has ever done that and probably never will again

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​You are part of the reason some people don't like Lebron. It's such a subjective thing it's arrogant to say this guy is the most gifted. It's not enough i said one of in any sport ever? Don't be such a fanboy.

Be honest name 1 person who has his mixture of size speed athleticism and skill... bo jackson is the only one I can think of close and he's not 6'9" so he loses in size
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