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[teeray]

2 hours ago, lightsout said:

Bayley and Sasha was fun. Bayley needs the title to help keep the women's division interesting, I think. Only so many angles they can work for storylines with Bayley only being a contender, and a lot of those have been done already.
 

YES!!

Get the title off of Alexa Bliss and let Sasha and Bayley tear down the house every night like they did Monday.

They proved again on Monday how awesome they are together and how far away Bliss is from being on their level in the ring.

They are the two best on RAW.

[Still Brooklyn]

3 hours ago, Lomez said:

Going to NXT and/or Summerslam?

NXT hopefully. No way to Summerslam.

[lightsout]

Good show tonight. The Ambrose and Rollins story is good, even if Rollins is a little flat in his segments (though his in ring work is good as always). Shows how damn good Ambrose is. 

Bayley and Nia burned the house down. Damn shame they didn't give her a clean victory. Hopefully they're setting up a tag match with Sasha though.

 

Only gripe is half the roster is getting injured shoulders. Diminishes the idea of adversity when it's just expected that the Babyface is gonna get injured in every damn match. 

[teeray]

14 hours ago, lightsout said:

Good show tonight. The Ambrose and Rollins story is good, even if Rollins is a little flat in his segments (though his in ring work is good as always). Shows how damn good Ambrose is. 

Bayley and Nia burned the house down. Damn shame they didn't give her a clean victory. Hopefully they're setting up a tag match with Sasha though.

 

Only gripe is half the roster is getting injured shoulders. Diminishes the idea of adversity when it's just expected that the Babyface is gonna get injured in every damn match. 

Bayley is a great seller but not sure if that injury was for real or storyline.  She definitely looked awkward going down on the mat.  Hopefully nothing serious or she was just selling like a fugging champ

[Kramerica]

The third hour of RAW was awful. Once the main event went on at the top of the 10pm hour, the crowd almost completely checked out. I like Bayley and I think Nia has potential, but there was zero heat and crowd reaction in their match. They must really think that having killed Bayley for about two months straight would get her over as even more of an underdog. It's not working, and the crowd is getting more and more mild. Someone in attendance said there was even a dueling "Let's Go Bayley" / "Bayley Sucks" chant, although I didn't hear it on TV.

Also, that Cass/Show match and angle...ugh. Heel Cass gets one over on face Big show, so face Enzo attacks him from behind like a coward and then gets killed (again). Afterward, Show lays out Cass and Show/Enzo walk out together. This makes zero sense and gets no one over.

On a positive note, Heyman cut another tremendous promo that actually had something of substance behind it (Brock leaving WWE possibly), and Ambrose seems to be refreshed with this Seth Rollins angle. Dean has been doing some great promo work. Their presumed match with Sheamus/Cesaro at Summerslam should be good, and the crowd will love a Shield reunion/tag team champs run.

[Kramerica]

41 minutes ago, teeray said:

Bayley is a great seller but not sure if that injury was for real or storyline.  She definitely looked awkward going down on the mat.  Hopefully nothing serious or she was just selling like a fugging champ

Agreed, either Bayley worked me or that was a legit shoulder injury. I haven't seen anything today about an injury, so hopefully that's a good sign.

[party_animal]

Adam Cole bay bay

[lightsout]

SummerSlam wasn't bad, but not as good as it could have been. 

Colonel Sanders HBK is life.

John Cena is still tops at telling a story in a match. Even if he's boring in his moveset, he's just good at entertaining. Corbin is just....ugh.

Big Cass getting heat is good. But the match wasn't as good as I expected it to be. Just not a PPV level match, but it is a filler match so whatevs. Maybe Big show edges closer to retirement?

Sasha and Alexa killed it. Absolutely phenomenal. Bought every second of it.

Rollins/Ambrose getting the tag titles was nice. Very good match that went as well as you could hope for.

Randy Orton getting a squash match didn't make sense to me, but I rarely watch smackdown, so maybe there was more to that that I'm missing.

Bray and Finn was just ok, and I love Finn. The story was missing from the match until the last minute of the match. The ending sequence was how the match should have ended, just the other 2/3 should've been there. Bray getting booked as the scary jobber is getting tired. He's too good and should get more respect. He's one of the few true heels in the WWE and his gimmick only works if beating him is an accomplishment.

AJ Styles and KO probably had the best performance. Just an awesome match.

Nakamura and Jinder Mahal....well, Jinder Mahal carried the match. The only thing I enjoyed was the fact that Nakamura didn't botch a move and nearly snap Jinder's neck. I'm just not buying Nakamura, even if I do love his entrance.

The Lesnar fatal 4 way was sweet. Nice, brutal match. Braun is the man still, IDGAF.

 

Overall, solid show. Just wish there would've been more to it.

[party_animal]

I hated SummerSlam. Nakamura should have beaten Jinder Mahal. The lack of a reaction after that finish is exactly what you want to avoid. Nobody cares about him.

The other title is still on a part time employee.

 

[*FreeFua*]

On 2017-08-21 at 3:08 PM, party_animal said:

I hated SummerSlam. Nakamura should have beaten Jinder Mahal. The lack of a reaction after that finish is exactly what you want to avoid. Nobody cares about him.

The other title is still on a part time employee.

 

Yeah I thought Summerslam was TERRIBLE. The Usos/New Day, Rollins & Ambrose vs Sheamus & Cesaro and then the Fatal 4 were the ONLY decent matches imo. 

 

Speaking of "other title being on a part time employee" I'm not so sure the Smackdown title isn't on a technically part time employee.

For the life of me I can't figure out how the hell Jinder passes drug tests. He has some of the absolute worst gynecomastia I have ever seen. Now I know if you're signed to a part time contract you're not subjected to the same drug testing as full time employee's. It even looked like he had some of his gyno removed (easy surgery) and it was still bad on Sunday. You can only get gyno from steroid use/test use. You can take all the estrogen blockers you want but some still get it. I'm just curious as hell as to how he does it and it's bugging me since he's got back.

Like I've mentioned before I know there is some wiggle room with test use as long as your test/test e ratio is under 6:1 but I can't imagine that little bit of test is causing that much of a reaction. It's seriously hard to look at. Just curious if anyone knows of any other loop holes?

[lightsout]

Either fans at the shows are ruining the shows or the wwe has no clue how to work the heel/Babyface dynamic. How the hell is Sasha getting booed and Alexa Bliss getting cheers? She's not even a tweener heel. She's a heel outright. I don't get it.

[Still Brooklyn]

There is no real heel/face dynamic anymore. Stone Cold broke that ages ago. That's old school wrestling. Good Guys vs Bad Guys, etc. Cena gets booed these days and he's supposed to be Hulk Hogan. So it makes perfect sense guys would like a hot, smart-mouthed blonde. The only TRUE heel who gets booed (except last week, lol) is The Miz.

[*FreeFua*]

57 minutes ago, lightsout said:

Either fans at the shows are ruining the shows or the wwe has no clue how to work the heel/Babyface dynamic. How the hell is Sasha getting booed and Alexa Bliss getting cheers? She's not even a tweener heel. She's a heel outright. I don't get it.

Bliss > Sasha

[Kramerica]

On 8/28/2017 at 4:02 PM, lightsout said:

Either fans at the shows are ruining the shows or the wwe has no clue how to work the heel/Babyface dynamic. How the hell is Sasha getting booed and Alexa Bliss getting cheers? She's not even a tweener heel. She's a heel outright. I don't get it.

Because they make their babyfaces look like idiots and losers constantly. It's the same thing that happened to Bayley. 

What blew my mind is that they emphasized that Sasha, the babyface, has never defended her title successfully. And what did they do? Beat her clean in the middle, 1-2-3. Why would people cheer Sasha after that? Alexa said she was a loser and then went out there and proved it. Recall that Alexa said Bayley can't get "extreme" for their kendo stick match. What happened? She was right, Bayley looked like a dork, Alexa wins.