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WWE has actually been very good since Wrestlemania.

I agree with Lomez with the ending of the women's match.  Honestly though, with all due respect to Natty who is a fine wrestler, fans really just want the 4 horsewomen and no one else right now.  

The rumor is they are holding off on Sasha vs Charlotte for SummerSlam.  But that brings me to another point

The fans keep chanting "We want Sasha".  And I agree that can be irritating.  But here is a novel concept that could help with that:

GIVE THE FUGGING FANS SASHA BANKS!!!

Damn.  She doesnt have to be in the title picture yet.  Just give her some matches on RAW that arent crammed into an 8 women tag match.  Maybe a match on the PPV pre-show to placate fans who want to see her.

RAW and PPVs are at least 3 hours long.  WWE needs to find time for 2 women's segments each RAW. Even if one is just a squash match to say "Hey here's Sasha"

NXT has women's matches on the regular (usually one per hour of programming), and that is how they built their women's division.   That is the only way that RAW will do it.  They dont all have to be long matches or long in ring promos.  For instance, there was nothing wrong with Sasha Banks coming out and kicking Summer Rae's ass the night after Wrestlemania in 3 minutes.

And if you think it is bad now, wait until Bayley comes up.  She has already hijacked one RAW and she has never stepped foot on the main roster yet.

They took a step in the right direction by getting rid of the term "Divas".  Now they need to actually embrace their talented women to give the division the credibility they deserve.  If you give the 4 horsewomen a chance, they wont let you down.  

/rant

 

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Oh.  And I honestly thought Enzo might have been dead.  He hit the back of his head right at the base of his skull really, really hard.  Worst place possible.

Glad he is relatively okay and was released from the hospital.  Could have been much, much worse.  Unfortunate because they were on fire too.  Get well soon Enzo

Payback ended up being a really good PPV.  I was hoping for some Bullet/Balor club clarity by the end of the night, but whatever.  A fun main event nonetheless.

Sami and KO are going to fight forever.  Doesnt matter who won or lost.  They are the Peter and the Chicken (from Family Guy) of wrestling world.  Hate trumps sportsmanship.

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I just wish if Zayn was coming back to get revenge on KO, that he would've gotten the upper hand this time instead of falling victim to another power bomb. But, you're right, they'll fight forever.

I agree on giving the women an extra segment or two on RAW. There can be two storylines going on with women at the same time, one of which does not include the title. Perhaps we can eliminate some Goldust/R-Truth backstage promos?! 

To be honest, unless it's a smart crowd, I've noticed that Sasha sometimes gets kind of flat reactions. This is simply because those who do not watch NXT haven't been show the full scale of what Sasha can do. They really need to give her plenty of time to shine, because she can be a star in WWE and beyond. Side note, did you know that when she does that little hop swing and extends her arms, she's "pushing everyone else out of the way"? Everything makes sense now.

You're right about Bayley. Crowds who don't know her will fall in love with her immediately. I don't see her coming up any time soon, though. It seems like they're building to something long-term with her kayfabe injury in NXT. I'm thinking they're going to work towards another "against all odds" thing with her.

Enzo's injury kind of ruined Owens/Zayn for me, because I was hardly focused on the wrestling and more about checking Twitter for updates. I need to go back and watch it tonight. The dude may be out for a while...let's say he's out of action for a month. Would you try to push Big Cass in the meantime, or leave him off since his mic skills are mostly dependent on Enzo setting him up?

 

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1 hour ago, Lomez said:

I just wish if Zayn was coming back to get revenge on KO, that he would've gotten the upper hand this time instead of falling victim to another power bomb. But, you're right, they'll fight forever.

I agree on giving the women an extra segment or two on RAW. There can be two storylines going on with women at the same time, one of which does not include the title. Perhaps we can eliminate some Goldust/R-Truth backstage promos?! 

To be honest, unless it's a smart crowd, I've noticed that Sasha sometimes gets kind of flat reactions. This is simply because those who do not watch NXT haven't been show the full scale of what Sasha can do. They really need to give her plenty of time to shine, because she can be a star in WWE and beyond. Side note, did you know that when she does that little hop swing and extends her arms, she's "pushing everyone else out of the way"? Everything makes sense now.

You're right about Bayley. Crowds who don't know her will fall in love with her immediately. I don't see her coming up any time soon, though. It seems like they're building to something long-term with her kayfabe injury in NXT. I'm thinking they're going to work towards another "against all odds" thing with her.

Enzo's injury kind of ruined Owens/Zayn for me, because I was hardly focused on the wrestling and more about checking Twitter for updates. I need to go back and watch it tonight. The dude may be out for a while...let's say he's out of action for a month. Would you try to push Big Cass in the meantime, or leave him off since his mic skills are mostly dependent on Enzo setting him up?

 

Yeah I agree on Sasha.  It is because she has barely been on TV since she got called up.  She was part Team BAD, which was what it was, but she was never able to really shine on that multiple faction cluster they were doing.

Then she kinda disappeared for a while.  Came back to a huge pop at Royal Rumble.  But then immediately put the breaks on so Charlotte could wrestle Brie Bella at Fastlane because Daniel Bryan retired, and then Natty at Roadblock.

Then tore the house down with a great match at Wrestlemania with Becky and Charlotte.  Squashed Summer Rae.  Then dissapeared again.  Sasha and Becky had so much momentum coming out of Wrestlemania and they both have been pushed off TV for whatever reason.

And I feel like right now they have no idea what to do with Bayley, so it looks like they are going to do an injury angle.

Honestly she had no business staying in NXT after NXT: Dallas.  They should have just called her up.  Smarkamania was hot for her and she had nothing left to do in NXT.  They missed an opportunity there.  But she would probably just dissapear too.

I get the feeling maybe she has a rematch with Asuka at NXT: Brooklyn II.  But I dont even see why that is even necessary.  Just let Asuka do her thing and move Bayley on up and get her out of the way because Asuka is still in Bayley's shadow as long as Bayley stays in NXT.

You would think she HAS to debut no later than the RAW after SummerSlam

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That sucks. A lot.

And I've got great news, Tee...there will be plenty of 20 minute Shane vs Steph promos to come over the next several months!

And here we are, yet again, promoting McMahon drama as the focal point of WWE television. Awesome.

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I thought Payback was better than Wrestlemania, honestly.   WWE seems to be going with a quality over quantity and it's working, mostly.   The Owns/Zayn match was the best though, but not surprisingly, they kill.   I hated Miz winning, I think he's a boring wrestler and Cesaro is much better but, it's OK if Cesaro gets his title run like he deserves.  Styles and Reigns was a great match, and that's saying something, with Reigns involved.  He finally took some real bumps and looked like he could lose. 

I thought the Dean/Jericho match was only OK.  I've figured out something with Dean, which is clouded by amazing mic work, he's pretty boring in the ring.  Almost Reigns like with the same 5 moves.  

I'm also tired of Jericho.  It's time to roll out and let the young guys battle.  I'm sure his break is coming soon anyway.

The ending of the woman's match was stupid.  I just wanted a clean win or lose, no matter who wins, in that match.  Charlotte is a great wrestler, and I get she is a flair, but you have to let her win clean sometimes because she's so good, it's unbelievable she can't win on her own.

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9 minutes ago, Lomez said:

Fantastic news. If they build it up correctly, it could be similar to the Triple H return after the quad tear.

I only wish it stayed a secret to get that huge surprise pop, but this will generate ratings and the pop will be humongous regardless.

I have missed him so much.  Not so much Cena (who is coming back May 30) or Orton. 

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