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[Kramerica]

Thanks for the heads up, Zaximus. Here's a link for anyone wanting a recap:

http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2015/11/kevin-owens-melissa-joan-hart-feud/

[party_animal]

I don't even think Cesaro needs Paul E. He's doing fine on his own. He's gotten over by himself twice now. The issue is that Vince hates when people get over their own and it goes against his plan. See Zack Ryder as an example.

[teeray]

I think final will be Ambrose v Reigns

Prediction:  one of them will finally turn heel, and whoever turns wins.

Best bet:  Ambrose turns heel and wins only to drop it to babyface Reigns at next PPV

Fantasy booking: Reigns turns heel, wins, and slowly builds a "Roman Empire" faction heading into Wrestlemania season.  Dominates everyone until Brock Lesnar returns and tears down a small building with his bare hands which somehow leads to baby Lesnar v heel Reigns at WrestleMania.

 

 

[Kramerica]

Solid predictions, Tee. I agree that a face is not leaving with the belt tonight. Charlotte wins. Wyatt picks Strowman and, I guess, Harper, to face the Brothers of Destruction and Kane/Taker win.

Your fantasy Wrestlemania ME sounds pretty dope. Probably the next best thing to the now impossible Shield triple threat match.

[carpanfan96]

Lots of Rumors coming out that Ambrose will be winning, who knows if that really happens... but I think it would be Heel turn and Ambrose joining the Authority in some strange booking. Lol

[party_animal]

LOL. Done with this product for a while. Survivor's Series was a joke. Wake me up in time for Wrestlemania. The Panthers are 10-0.

[teeray]

SMH.

WWE makes this way harder than it has to be.  People want to boo Roman Reigns.  Let them.

After the match on WWE Network they showed Reigns leaving the ring hoping for cheers and sympathy.  He got booed out of the ring even after getting screwed.

So dumb.  Nobody gives a poo about Sheamus.

They are scared to turn Ambrose heel because they dont think it will work because fans want to cheer him, and they dont want to turn Reigns heel because they like the way he looks and hope he is Cena Jr. even though the fans make clear they want to boo him.

Dumb.  Dumb.  Dumb.

That had a chance to be really intriguing and interesting heading into Wrestlemania season.  Instead we get crap.

 

 

[teeray]

And another thing WWE.

There is literally one diva... i mean women's wrestler.... the people want to really see right now.  That is Sasha Banks.

Maybe take a fugging hint from the constant "We want Sasha" chants during every single women's match that maybe she should be featured some.  Just a thought.

Crowd:  We want Sasha!!!!

WWE:  We are listening guys... so here is Paige v Charlotte

And please dont take the chants to mean we want a babyface Shasha.  No.  We want the heel "Boss" Sasha

And quit trying to make Charlotte "Babyface Female Ric Flair".   And bring back "genetically superior heel Charlotte" from NXT.

And give Becky Lynch more to do and a storyline.

And call up Bayley before WrestleMania.  

NXT now has Asuka, Dana Brooke, Evil Emma, Alexa Bliss, Nia Jax, and hell even Carmella is getting over.  Bayley is having a well deserved run as NXT champ and is ungodly over.  Maybe the most popular wrestler in the entire company, male or female.

Let her have her time, but get her on RAW by Royal Rumble in January.  And dont fug her up.

I am one of the people who have grown to love the female wrestlers in WWE (especially the 4 horsewomen), and NXT has done them right.  I want see them to succeed on main roster too.  

I refuse to believe that women cant get over without having bra and panties matches.  NXT Brooklyn proved 16,000 people can get invested in a great women's story and match

Okay.  I feel better now

/rant

 

[teeray]

Also, I read somewhere that Cesaro is injured and needs surgery so he is going to he out a while.

I wonder if that is the reason neither Ambrose or Reigns turned heel last night.  Because they had already lost a popular babyface.

 

[teeray]

6 minutes ago, CCS said:

Their diva revolution thing was always bullshit. They're just trying to capitalize on the Ronda Rousey hype. If they were smart they'd set up Paige as the Ronda of the WWE and have the two eventually wrestle. But no, Ronda will be wrestling Stephanie McMahon because of ego. Girls like AJ Lee, Paige, Sasha Banks, and Bayley was, are, and will be facing an uphill battle. 

You can't take decades of WWE treating women like they're whores and then just expect people to treat them as legitimate athletes overnight. Especially when you still call them divas, still have a show called total divas, and have a champion that won because of nepotism. 

The Diva's Revolution was crap because they incessantly called it that instead of letting the women develop it organically like they did in NXT.

However I will say it took 2 years and several awesome matches to get NXT women on that level, and this "revolution" is still pretty much in it's infancy on the main roster.  But they can do better to build these ladies.

WWE is at it's worst when it tries to dictate to the fans instead of the other way around.

That doesnt mean you always give the fans exactly what they want every match.  But you have to listen and eventually at some point get them where they want to go.

They want Sasha, give them Sasha.

They want to boo Roman Reigns, let them by turning him heel.

Instead, based on rumors, they want to turn Ambrose heel even though everyone wante to cheer him, they want to turn Sasha babyface when everyone want her to be a heel, and they want to keep Reigns babyface even though we want to boo him.

I think Reigns would get over huge as a badass heel.  And then when he turns back babyface he will be even better and more popular (follow The Rock formula)

Just has me shaking my head how they can fug up this when it is really pretty easy booking

[teeray]

NXT is the only thing WWE is getting right these days.  Somehow they made Eva Marie v Bayley a wildly entertaining match.  

Oh and this has also me pumped

 

[carpanfan96]

11 hours ago, teeray said:

NXT is the only thing WWE is getting right these days.  Somehow they made Eva Marie v Bayley a wildly entertaining match.  

Oh and this has also me pumped

 

That's because Vince doesn't impede with Triple H and NXT's creative staff.

 

Makes for a much more intersting product with out Vince involved. Shame though, I expected Sheamus to walk out Champion though cause he's Vincent's normal type of choice as champion. 

[Zaximus]

Zayn is awesome.  Finn and him are better than 90% of the main roster lol.

[teeray]

League of Nations <<<<<<<<<<<< heel Roman Empire.   I dont really give a poo about anyone in this League of Nations except Rusev.

I do think they have made some good moves with the women though.  

Shasha is on my TV screen which is always good (still want them to ditch team BAD and let her be her own woman)

Charlotte it appears is turning heel, which she is infinitely better at than babyface.

Becky Lynch is going to get the Bayley treatment with all her friends screwing her despite her loyalty.  Could work out well for her.

Paige is the tweener

They are starting to make progress in the women's division.  I just hope they can make it all work because it seems right now every diva is a heel, but they all work better as heels.  So Becky may be the only decent babyface left.

Maybe a call up from a certain NXT Women's Champion to even the odds?