Justin Blackmon another failed drug test?

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Oh please. That doesn't make it a disease. Addictions are a result of choices people make. Or in other words, consequences. Something a lot of people here unfortunately have never had. Diseases are uncontrollable and unavoidable. Don't even try classifying addiction with cancer, heart disease, epilepsy, kidney disease, etc.

 

So if someone smokes a cig and gets lung cancer, it's not a disease, or is it?

[Clicheking]

Stay off the weeeeeeddddddd

[KendrickPanther]

So is herpes avoidable and controllable and therefore just an addiction?

 

Whatever word you want to slap on it. This guy has a serious problem that he cannot fix himself and a doctor may not be able to help him either. It's notable because he has a rare opportunity to play pro ball. But people all over our country struggle with substance abuse and addiction. Your wealth, talent, and potential do not make you immune in those personal battles. 

[csx]

If I said this I'd get banned. Thought personal attacks were not allowed here.

Then say it.

[BelgianPantherFan]

Hope he can turn his life around.

[London Loves Luke]

Wow this got real personal real quick.

Is addiction a mental illness? Yes. Does Blackmon have my sympathy? No.

[rayzor]

funny what thomas96 chose to respond to and what he didn't choose to respond to.

 

here's what he didn't respond to. i wonder why.....

It's considered a disease by the AMA. Whether you believe in the disease theory of alcoholism or not, you should probably get over people calling it what it is called by the AMA.

 

 

It doesn't begin as a disease, but eventually it becomes one as your body and brain chemistry change. This is why people tend to argue about the issue.

 

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+addiction+a+disease

 

 

Yep I agree THIS DISEASE, is ruining his life. When he started it wasn't a disease, but once a person loses the ability to say no it is. So many people lack compassion to others who have the disease of addiction and just think a person can and should stop. I mean seriously, he has millions of dollars at risk and he can't stop. Yes he is making poor decisions but it is beyond his own power to stop.

This is from drugabuse.gov website. " In reality, drug addiction is a complex disease, and quitting takes more than good intentions or a strong will. In fact, because DRUGS CHANGE THE BRAIN in ways that foster compulsive drug abuse, quitting is difficult, even for those who are ready to do so. "

 

 

One more thing. If anyone really wants to get educated on addiction and why it is a disease here is an outstanding video on YouTube. It is a presentation by former Navy pilot and current doctor, Dr Kevin T Mccauley. I can't stress enough how awesome this presentation is and you will learn tons if you take the time to watch it. He's even got a good sense of humor so it's not dry and actually very interesting. http://goo.gl/7q9kUV

 

 

So if someone smokes a cig and gets lung cancer, it's not a disease, or is it?

 

[Paintballr]

funny what thomas96 chose to respond to and what he didn't choose to respond to.

here's what he didn't respond to. i wonder why.....

It's no point in arguing with logic and facts, as someone who had his mother destroy her body with alcohol and join AA, it's a disease.

[Panthro]

funny what thomas96 chose to respond to and what he didn't choose to respond to.

here's what he didn't respond to. i wonder why.....

Just like a disease he has built up an immunity to facts and intelligence

[UpstatePanther]

Your grandfather made the choices he made and whatever issues arose are a result of his choices and his choices alone. He needs to be held accountable, not as if it's some "disease" that's uncontrollable. And I would gladly say this right to your face, your grandfather's face, and whoever else's face you want.

maybe at first sure. but by the time we had to intervene, and the only reason we had to do so, was because it was exactly what you claim it wasn't... uncontrollable.

stop being ignorant Thomas. I overreacted at first and I apologize. but that doesnt make you right.

[JJman Returns]

Anyone who has smoked weed in there life knows it's not a very addictive drug. I used to smoke everyday for 4 years from the time I was 14 to the time I was 18 and then once I got a job I didn't pick up a blunt for another 3 months. It wasn't very difficult to do. Y'all are crazy if you think a weed addiction is a disease.

Now crack, meth, heroin, opiates, benzos and cocaine addictions are all extremely serious. But I doubt that's what is troubling. Blackmon because we'd of likely heard about it by now.

[Panthro]

thomas96 proves that being an idiot is an addiction. Look at this thread for proof. I don't feel sorry though. Being an idiot is his choice. 

 

 

I wonder what this blathering fool does for a living...certainly nothing close to the medical field. 

[therealmjl]

Lmao thomas96 got served.

[Ricky Spanish]

Gonna play some Devil's advocate here...

 

I know a lot of people have trouble calling addiction a disease because calling it one makes people feel like it absolves the affected (effected?) of all responsibilities that lead up to it. You normally associate the term disease with things like Alzheimer's, Some Cancers, Kidney disorders, etc. Those are things that aren't preventable and are results of your body failing you. So to some, classifying addiction as a disease makes it OK to have it because there is nothing you could have done to stop it, if that makes sense. It's removal of responsibility. 

 

Addiction can definitely LEAD to some diseases in cancer, kidney failures, heart disease, etc, but not in every case. I think Thomas did a very poor job of getting his point across in that aspect, as did many on the opposing side.

 

One thing we can all agree on is that Addiction sucks donkey dick and people with addictions need help just like anyone else. Treatment is essential and necessary in order for people to get better. Physical addiction is the short term battle, but psychological addiction is the long term war. That is why people relapse and it's never good. 

 

So I get what everyone is saying, but I get where thomas96 is coming from as well. You're all saying it's an illness, which it is, and he's saying it doesn't give people a free pass to keep making the same mistakes over and over again, because it doesn't. 

 

Addiction, in my opinion, is a psychological/mental disorder in which a person destroys themselves from the inside out. I have it along the same lines of Depression, BPD, Bipolar, etc. It is preventable, there are treatments for it, and people who have addictions need help. Having said that, just because they are sick does not excuse poor behavior they exhibit while they are not being treated. Recognizing help is needed and doing the necessary steps to prevent it from happening again show self awareness and owning one's shortcoming can go a long way in helping repair relationships/damage done while people are sick. It's like saying "Hey, I know I was being a dick and self destructive and I probably hurt you in some way and I'm sorry about it. I'm getting help now and I'm trying not to let it happen again, but it's a struggle for me daily."

 

TL:DR I agree with Thomas96 that it is not a disease, but I do believe it is a mental disorder that requires medical attention/treatment