David Newton ranks our receivers (which is very close to my own).

[TheNewStandard]

KB, Funchess, Cotch, Boykin, Brown and Ginn

Bank on it

Funchess is a beast. he's the type that can run past, over, through or just str8 pmel defenders. The type of guy that can teceive that WR screen pass and just pummel people while pickimg up yards...not sure we had that type of athlet with that type of mentality in Benjamin or Olsen.

[camycamcan]

Damn so much disrespect to philly Hill u rank hill and jb over Philly smh

[Carolina Cajun]

Thomas Thomas Thomas. I have watched Hill play. He can be very effective when used in the slot. As a matter of fact, there is an argument that he is more effective in the slot than when people force him to be on the outside because of stereotypical perceptions. He is a big, strong, physical guy that may be better in the short game where he can see the ball in as opposed to tracking it, and then seeing it in.

Unfortunately I have to go now, but I will leave you with this. Sure it's a draft profile, but it's the quickest thing I could find. I have seen others talking about Hill with the Jets and how he may be better in the slot.

"Hill's on-field speed is obvious, but I was pleasantly surprised by his physical play. He fights to get free from press coverage, and he has no problem mixing it up downfield to get open in short spaces. Very effective slot receiver in two- and three-receiver sets; he has the ability to sit in a zone, make the quick catch after a in-cut or quick comeback, and then, it's off to the races. Could be a nightmare for nickel cornerbacks and high safeties in that role -- he can beat brackets by running by the zone corner and catching the ball before the safety gets there. Nice lateral agility and quick steps to get upfield after receiver screens -- Hill is not just a speed guy who will go down upon first contact. "

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/shutdown-50-37-stephen-hill-wr-georgia-tech-153226826.html

You can poo poo this off all you like, but I first saw someone else remark about Hill's potential in the slot when he was with the Jets. Moreover, Hill is still so young and raw, that I am sure some of the same things that scouts saw when he first came into the league are the same things that Gman and Proehl saw on tape, and that's why they got him down here.

Catching was Hill's biggest weakness. Hopefully it's not now that Proehl has had a chance to work with him. Make no mistake, if he can catch, the slot may become an ideal spot for him.

 

Well, there is a point to be made by Thomas, I don't think his "shiftiness" translates to the inside as well as the outside, but he does possess the ability to get down the field quickly like Ginn and Philly.  This doesn't exclude him from being able to take Philly's role IMO because of Funchess.  If we keep philly on the roster, I see him lining up in the slot because of his shiftiness and speed, but if you keep Hill, you move hill outside and Funch to the slot (TE/slot position), and you still get essentially the same skillset.  The difference is about whether you want to keep Funch outside and utilize Philly's shiftiness, or utilize our team size with a huge wideout set.  The wideout competition will be very interesting this preseason.

[Car123]

KB success last year won't be the same as this year with more receivers now, his numbers will drop. Espn will say it's a rookie slump, but we all know what's going on.

I see it going up. Opponents won't have to focus only on him.

[FootballMaestro]

Rivera pointedly said that Hill was putting in the work. But before you say it's Ron being Ron, then here is something from Proehl:

“I can’t say enough about this kid,” wide-receiver coach Ricky Proehl raved about Stephen Hill on Bustin' Loose with Frank Garcia and Mark Yarboro. Yarbs (Yarboro) brought up Hill with the reservation most Panthers media does when addressing the enigmatic former 2nd round pick who many view as a hopeless bust.

Proehl thinks otherwise, stating “he did nothing but work his tail off….I can’t wait to get my hands on him this spring and in the offseason so as to showcase what he can do. This will be a big spring for him.”

http://www.carolinacatchronicles.com/newsfeed/2015/4/16/ricky-proehl-high-on-stephen-hill

 

Thanks for the quotes.

 

However, I call it Proehl being professional and positive to guys on the radio regarding a player on his practice squad trying to make the team.

 

With all due respect. This sounds more wishful thinking (which you're entitled) on your part. And I suggest we wait till the season starts.

 

I saw nothing in that quote that says he's likely to make the team in fashion (not that he can't).

 

[Gallagher]

Damn so much disrespect to philly Hill u rank hill and jb over Philly smh

 

I dunno man, the hype around Philly is sometimes a little heavy. Outside of the Pittsburgh game, he didn't do much to show that he could be a starting NFL wide receiver. I mean he only had about 300 yards last year. Comparatively, you've got Ginn's 2013 season with us (556 yards), Jarrett Boykin's 2013 season(681 Yards).

 

It's not that Philly is bad, he's just not a proven commodity like some of these other guys. The jury is still out.

[t96]

I dunno man, the hype around Philly is sometimes a little heavy. Outside of the Pittsburgh game, he didn't do much to show that he could be a starting NFL wide receiver. I mean he only had about 300 yards last year. Comparatively, you've got Ginn's 2013 season with us (556 yards), Jarrett Boykin's 2013 season(681 Yards).

 

It's not that Philly is bad, he's just not a proven commodity like some of these other guys. The jury is still out.

 

Corey Brown: 254 offensive snaps

 

Ted Ginn: 469 offensive snaps

 

Jarrett Boykin: 636 offensive snaps

 

Also take note of the system Boykin played in, as well as his QB. And take note of the difference in Carolina's offensive line from 2013 to 2014. Philly is a significantly better wide receiver than Boykin, and marginally better than Ginn at this point. Stats don't tell the whole story. Watch the tape on these 3 players and it's clear Philly is the best of the 3. Not by any means trying to hype him up like he should be starter at WR2 or anything, but he is our 2nd best WR right now (Not including Funchess because until camp we don't really have much of an idea, but I fully expect him to win the #2 job come week 1).

[Mol3m4n]

I dunno man, the hype around Philly is sometimes a little heavy. Outside of the Pittsburgh game, he didn't do much to show that he could be a starting NFL wide receiver. I mean he only had about 300 yards last year. Comparatively, you've got Ginn's 2013 season with us (556 yards), Jarrett Boykin's 2013 season(681 Yards).

It's not that Philly is bad, he's just not a proven commodity like some of these other guys. The jury is still out.

Philly Brown want even in the nfl in 2013, so I'm not sure that's fair.

2014:

Boykin- 3 rec, 23 yards

Ginn- 14 rec, 190 yards

Brown- 21 rec, 296 yards

[camycamcan]

I dunno man, the hype around Philly is sometimes a little heavy. Outside of the Pittsburgh game, he didn't do much to show that he could be a starting NFL wide receiver. I mean he only had about 300 yards last year. Comparatively, you've got Ginn's 2013 season with us (556 yards), Jarrett Boykin's 2013 season(681 Yards).

It's not that Philly is bad, he's just not a proven commodity like some of these other guys. The jury is still out.

the hype around hill is outrageous and Philly was a undrafted FA with limited snaps and did better than Boykin last year don't know what Ted did last year but probably better

[top dawg]

Philly Brown want even in the nfl in 2013, so I'm not sure that's fair.

2014:

Boykin- 3 rec, 23 yards

Ginn- 14 rec, 190 yards

Brown- 21 rec, 296 yards

This is like comparing apples to oranges, not apples to apples. A better way to do it is to compare the first years that they really played. But even if you don't want to do that, then at the very least look at averages (e.g., YPR, YPG or YAC). You just cant look at the number of snaps that a receiver plays to tell if he is good. There are so many other things that receivers do like run routes (including after the catch), block down field, and even pass protect if necessary. Thomas will tell you that Brown runs better routes (which I don't believe), but even if that's true, he certainly can't block worth two cents. Moreover, his special teams ability leaves a lot to be desired and can't match Brown's.

I am not saying that Brown hasn't improved, or can't beat Boykin out of a roster spot, but what I am saying is that if you delve a little deeper than just the surface, into the averages as well as the intangibles, then today Boykin is still the more complete---basically the superior receiver.

BTW, Boykin produced regardless if it was Rodgers (who was hurt), Matt Flynn or Seneca Wallace, so the myth that he was in a bed of roses needs to be put to bed.

And lastly, don't forget that Boykin was brought here to compete, and was essentially a fallback in case Jennings didn't work out. His special teams ability was noted by Gman and Rivera as well.

[mbarbour21]

Philly Brown want even in the nfl in 2013, so I'm not sure that's fair.

2014:

Boykin- 3 rec, 23 yards

Ginn- 14 rec, 190 yards

Brown- 21 rec, 296 yards

Boykin and Ginn had ALOT more talent in front of them. That is important to remember.

[top dawg]

Boykin and Ginn had ALOT more talent in front of them. That is important to remember.

I am pretty sure Cobb was hurt. The other two were Nelson and Jones, whom Boykin essentially outplaced, but then shortly got outplaced by Adams

[unicar15]

Cotchery needs to prove he can be a good possession guy. Truthfully would rather have Ginn or Philly though. We need some speed out there. Put Ginn and KB on outside with Funchess and Olsen occupying middle/intermediate. Nightmare for safeties...

[Mol3m4n]

Boykin and Ginn had ALOT more talent in front of them. That is important to remember.

It was both of their jobs to lose.