David Newton ranks our receivers (which is very close to my own).

[FootballMaestro]

Unless I read you wrong (and I'm still reading), no where in hell Stephen Hill passes Brown on the depth/usage chart right now!

 

And how do you know Hill's been "coached up (or is that wishful thinking)"?

 

We won't know if that has any impact until the season starts (especially with his previous track record), though I have my hopes up the panthers coaching staff can do their jobs.

[B.BERSIN]

I cant help laughing when I see Stephen Hill is ranked the 5th while he's just on the practice squad...

[juliosantos]

Kelvin

funchess

Hill

cotch

ginn

philly.

[Moorgan]

Yeah I do think Funchess has more explosiveness and more elusiveness and that gives him a chance to develop into a better WR than Kelvin.

One of the things that surprised be about Kelvin is how well he got off the jam and used his hands to his advantage on jump balls. Not every receiver can do that Week 1 but he could. So with Funchess I'd like to see how well he gets off the jam, uses his hands, and uses leverage.

One of the things Bene said in the podcast was that most receivers don't like being jammed. He identified KB and Mike Evans as the two guys who LIKE it.

Spot on observation about KB.

[CarolinaNCSU]

I would LOVE for Stephen Hill to succeed.  But until he can actually catch a football, he's not even on the radar to make the team for me. 

[KJ89]

You underestimate Philly Brown.

[Ivan The Awesome]

KB success last year won't be the same as this year with more receivers now, his numbers will drop. Espn will say it's a rookie slump, but we all know what's going on.

[top dawg]

Come on Top Dawg, you know you don't want to

be on the same page as David fuging Newton... This just backs up my notion that Philly's a lock to make the roster.

LOL

His stock is up. His glutes may be a lock to cozy up with the bench, and I am OK with that.

I don't see how Brown is rated below Boykin...

I don't see how you can't see Boykin being ranked above Brown. He is bigger, stronger, has better hands, is a much better downfield blocker, gets better YAC, and makes an impact on special teams.

You underestimate Philly Brown.

Perhaps, but it is Boykin, not Brown, that is being grossly underestimated by the Huddle in my opinion . Brown's o my saving grace is that Boykin is more akin to KB and Funch.

See? That's why I wanted to draft another receiver late. Then we wouldn't have to debate over JAGs...

[t96]

LOL

His stock is up. His glutes may be a lock to cozy up with the bench, and I am OK with that.

I don't see how you can't see Boykin being ranked above Brown. He is bigger, stronger, has better hands, is a much better downfield blocker, gets better YAC, and makes an impact on special teams.

Perhaps, but it is Boykin, not Brown, that is being grossly underestimated by the Huddle in my opinion . Brown's o my saving grace is that Boykin is more akin to KB and Funch.

See? That's why I wanted to draft another receiver late. Then we wouldn't have to debate over JAGs...

 

We could go back and forth and back and forth until the season starts, as we've been doing, but what would be the point in that? You'll see when Boykin's out of a job, and Philly's got our slot duties come week 1...

 

And I will be posting my Philly breakdown as soon as I figure out how to fuging post videos. All my clips are too large to post and I'm trying to figure out a way around that. Would be tough to get my point across without the clips to back it up.

[t96]

KB success last year won't be the same as this year with more receivers now, his numbers will drop. Espn will say it's a rookie slump, but we all know what's going on.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I think Funch will take away from Olsen's and Cotchery's stats more than KB's. KB could've and should've had 1500 yards last year. If he touches up his route running and eliminates the mental mistakes I think he'll improve upon last year in efficiency but his volume may go down so I don't think he'll quite hit 1500. But I think he'll likely have more yards and almost certainly more touchdowns. Can't wait to see.

[top dawg]

And how do you know Hill's been "coached up (or is that wishful thinking)"?

Rivera pointedly said that Hill was putting in the work. But before you say it's Ron being Ron, then here is something from Proehl:

“I can’t say enough about this kid,” wide-receiver coach Ricky Proehl raved about Stephen Hill on Bustin' Loose with Frank Garcia and Mark Yarboro. Yarbs (Yarboro) brought up Hill with the reservation most Panthers media does when addressing the enigmatic former 2nd round pick who many view as a hopeless bust.

Proehl thinks otherwise, stating “he did nothing but work his tail off….I can’t wait to get my hands on him this spring and in the offseason so as to showcase what he can do. This will be a big spring for him.”

http://www.carolinacatchronicles.com/newsfeed/2015/4/16/ricky-proehl-high-on-stephen-hill

[top dawg]

My hope is that Hill is in the slot. Both Brown and Boykin can keep each other company on the bench.

Hill might just be Proehl's finest moment as a coach for all we know. He is certainly talking him up.

[t96]

My hope is that Hill is in the slot. Both Brown and Boykin can keep each other company on the bench.

 

Not even a trace of Hill's skill set fits the slot. 

[top dawg]

Not even a trace of Hill's skill set fits the slot.

Thomas Thomas Thomas. I have watched Hill play. He can be very effective when used in the slot. As a matter of fact, there is an argument that he is more effective in the slot than when people force him to be on the outside because of stereotypical perceptions. He is a big, strong, physical guy that may be better in the short game where he can see the ball in as opposed to tracking it, and then seeing it in.

Unfortunately I have to go now, but I will leave you with this. Sure it's a draft profile, but it's the quickest thing I could find. I have seen others talking about Hill with the Jets and how he may be better in the slot.

"Hill's on-field speed is obvious, but I was pleasantly surprised by his physical play. He fights to get free from press coverage, and he has no problem mixing it up downfield to get open in short spaces. Very effective slot receiver in two- and three-receiver sets; he has the ability to sit in a zone, make the quick catch after a in-cut or quick comeback, and then, it's off to the races. Could be a nightmare for nickel cornerbacks and high safeties in that role -- he can beat brackets by running by the zone corner and catching the ball before the safety gets there. Nice lateral agility and quick steps to get upfield after receiver screens -- Hill is not just a speed guy who will go down upon first contact. "

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/shutdown-50-37-stephen-hill-wr-georgia-tech-153226826.html

You can poo poo this off all you like, but I first saw someone else remark about Hill's potential in the slot when he was with the Jets. Moreover, Hill is still so young and raw, that I am sure some of the same things that scouts saw when he first came into the league are the same things that Gman and Proehl saw on tape, and that's why they got him down here.

Catching was Hill's biggest weakness. Hopefully it's not now that Proehl has had a chance to work with him. Make no mistake, if he can catch, the slot may become an ideal spot for him.