Cam needs to step up this year

[TheMaulClaw]

I am excited as well. I have a strong feeling that Oher will be a big upgrade from Bell. I also like that we seem to have cohesion as well. For us the problems were not from the between the 20s, the problems were in the Red Zone! And so what do we do? We get another huge Receiver! And not only that, we get a huge road grader at Tackle that could come in on short yardage situations. 

 

I agree completely about Oher. 

 

I think Corey Brown's progression might be underestimated by a lot of people.  He's only going get stronger.  He really could be a nice weapon in the slot this year.

 

[MedellinHeel]

Rank the quarterbacks.

 

Just a quick ranking i threw together

 

1. Brady

2. Manning

3. Rodgers

4. Wilson

5. Big Ben

6. Brees

7. Romo

8. Luck

9. Ryan

10. Rivers

11. Flacco

12. Eli

13. Cam

14. Tannehill

15. A. Smith

15. Cutler

[B.BERSIN]

Umm qb rating doesn't mean anything.

 

LOL, it doesnt mean anything if Cam is not ranked no.1 right? 

 

In 2014, among all the factors we evaluate a qb, here is Cam's ranking:

 

TTL Yards:21st

Comp: 22nd

Comp pct: 29th

Yards/Attempt: 25th

TD: 21st

INT:15th

 

None is even in the top 10.

 

I dont even know Cam is that bad after searching...

[Peppers90 NC]

Very insightful thread. Maybe OP should consider stepping up his thread creating game.

[TheRed]

Just a quick ranking i threw together

 

1. Brady

2. Manning

3. Rodgers

4. Wilson

5. Big Ben

6. Brees

7. Romo

8. Luck

9. Ryan

10. Rivers

11. Flacco

12. Eli

13. Cam

14. Tannehill

15. A. Smith

15. Cutler

 

Wilson is a little high on that list, and Rivers at 10 above guys who have actually won 1-2 SuperBowls like Flacco and Eli is a bit much.

[MedellinHeel]

Wilson is a little high on that list, and Rivers at 10 above guys who have actually won 1-2 SuperBowls like Flacco and Eli is a bit much.

 

Wilson is right where he needs to be. Back to back superbowls. Should have two rings if his coach didnt go full retard. 

 

He is smart and simply makes plays when they are needed. 

 

Put Rivers on that Balitmore and Giants team and they do even better. Eli throws way too many picks for me to put him above Rivers regardless of his lucky superbowl wins. 

[MedellinHeel]

LOL, it doesnt mean anything if Cam is not ranked no.1 right? 

 

In 2014, among all the factors we evaluate a qb, here is Cam's ranking:

 

TTL Yards:21st

Comp: 22nd

Comp pct: 29th

Yards/Attempt: 25th

TD: 21st

INT:15th

 

None is even in the top 10.

 

I dont even know Cam is that bad after searching...

 

Cam had a REALLY rough yr last yr. 

 

But you have to cut him some slack due to the atrocious OL play and Shula being trash. 

[thefuzz]

Wilson is a little high on that list, and Rivers at 10 above guys who have actually won 1-2 SuperBowls like Flacco and Eli is a bit much.

 

I rarely use SB's as a way to judge a QB, but to each his own.

 

Rivers is a top 5 QB in the league, he just is on a bottom tier team.  Look at the completion %, TD to INT ratio, yards per game as a starter, etc....

 

 

He will likely go down as a Marino type player.

[L-TownCat]

I dont understand the rules here.

 

Some QBs get consideration for their whole career.

 

Some are ranked because of SB success.

 

There is nothin uniform about these ranks.

 

 

There are:

Active all time list

Active SB winners list

Active stat leaders list

Active games won list

 

They all are different.  You can not mix them together.

 

If you rank Brady first then you must be using either the SB list or the All-time list.  Neither of which is an accurate way to rank Cams achievements.

 

Be careful when you rank QBs.  Your heart will lie to you.  And pick one list and stick to it.

[heel31ok]

Wilson is a little high on that list, and Rivers at 10 above guys who have actually won 1-2 SuperBowls like Flacco and Eli is a bit much.

 

so Cam's about right then? which is the pt by the way.

 

[TheRed]

Wilson is right where he needs to be. Back to back superbowls. Should have two rings if his coach didnt go full retard. 

 

He is smart and simply makes plays when they are needed. 

 

Put Rivers on that Balitmore and Giants team and they do even better. Eli throws way too many picks for me to put him above Rivers regardless of his lucky superbowl wins. 

 

So wait, Eli has two "lucky superbowl wins", but you rank Russell Wilson 4th out of all QB's for being the winning QB in one of the most lopsided Super Bowl's in history? Which by the way was also one of the most dominant defensive efforts by a Super Bowl team in the Seahawks. Seattle may as well have been playing a high school team out there, that is how putrid Denver was. They didn't even score a touchdown until the 4th fugging quarter.

 

But you're gonna poo on Eli? Ok....

[J.Cage]

LOL, it doesnt mean anything if Cam is not ranked no.1 right? 

 

In 2014, among all the factors we evaluate a qb, here is Cam's ranking:

 

TTL Yards:21st

Comp: 22nd

Comp pct: 29th

Yards/Attempt: 25th

TD: 21st

INT:15th

 

None is even in the top 10.

 

I dont even know Cam is that bad after searching...

Yes because the rest of our explosive players on offense were just waiting for Cam to put it together

[MedellinHeel]

I rarely use SB's as a way to judge a QB, but to each his own.

 

Rivers is a top 5 QB in the league, he just is on a bottom tier team.  Look at the completion %, TD to INT ratio, yards per game as a starter, etc....

 

 

He will likely go down as a Marino type player.

 

SB is not a good indicator by itself, but one needs to acknowledge a QB that is able to step up in the biggest of moments and lead his team to a win. (assuming they played good in the SB win)

[heel31ok]

I dont understand the rules here.

 

Some QBs get consideration for their whole career.

 

Some are ranked because of SB success.

 

There is nothin uniform about these ranks.

 

 

There are:

Active all time list

Active SB winners list

Active stat leaders list

Active games won list

 

They all are different.  You can not mix them together.

 

If you rank Brady first then you must be using either the SB list or the All-time list.  Neither of which is an accurate way to rank Cams achievements.

 

Be careful when you rank QBs.  Your heart will lie to you.  And pick one list and stick to it.

 

I think everyone's perspective changes if we use QB-A and QB-B etc in these discussions.