Panthers trade up to 9th pick of second round - select Devin Funchess

[Proudiddy]

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Laugh out fuging loud

Your ego is enormous. You're some random dude on the internet

TRG, this is the post that ignited the "ego" and "random Internet guy v Gettleman," poo that you kicked up this morning.

I didn't start that and I didn't frame it. You did. And this post was in response to me simply saying I hated the pick, mentioned funchess'drop rate, and that I thought he was slow. I then responded to this troll-worthy post with "and he was a P.E. coach," to demonstrate he is human as well.

So, for all your, "don't make dumb arguments," talk, this quoted post bodes well for that. Glad you've had a change of heart since last night.

[TheRed]

Wait. You're seriously unhappy with the Funchess pick Proudiddy?

 

Yikes.

[TheRumGone]

Wait. You're seriously unhappy with the Funchess pick Proudiddy?

 

Yikes.

 

why are you surprised?

 

do you not read his posts on gameday?

[TheRed]

why are you surprised?

 

do you not read his posts on gameday?

 

Some of them, but I figured he was just pissed about the trade, and would come around.

 

When I first heard what we gave up, I was kind of surprised. But knowing how Gettleman does things, how meticulous he is, and how much he values picks, for him to give up a 3rd and a 6th to draft the guy, that tells me that he saw something special in Funchess and thinks he can contribute immediately. I'm happy with it.

[TheRumGone]

TRG, this is the post that ignited the "ego" and "random Internet guy v Gettleman," poo that you kicked up this morning.

I didn't start that and I didn't frame it. You did. And this post was in response to me simply saying I hated the pick, mentioned funchess'drop rate, and that I thought he was slow. I then responded to this troll-worthy post with "and he was a P.E. coach," to demonstrate he is human as well.

So, for all your, "don't make dumb arguments," talk, this quoted post bodes well for that. Glad you've had a change of heart since last night.

 

 

 

my god man. change of heart? i didn't start that and i didn't frame it? don't even know what you're saying at this point.

 

most reasonable people who don't like what we gave up or don't like the pick don't downplay a man who has been in the business 30 years. They state, we need speed, i hope we get speed in later rounds. Then, if they are reasonable, they will look at things that funchess is really good at.

 

1. he's athletic as all get out for his size (hurdles tacklers, quick feet, smooth route running, long wingspan)

 

then they look at bad things

 

1. not majorly productive, has been known to be soft, catching issues, ect.

 

you are not reasonable. you are emotional as all get out.  but i'm kind of bored with this. its draft time!

 

 

 

 

[Proudiddy]

Wait. You're seriously unhappy with the Funchess pick Proudiddy?

Yikes.

I wanted speed, Red. And admittedly, I likely got sucked into some trolling from the gettleman circle jerk initially, where every move is fuging einstien-esque, and went too far in my stated opinion of the pick.

I don't love it, but we'll see what happens. I'll be much happier with it if we draft a speed guy today. I'm just not a big fan of filling your WR corps with gigantic, long-striding (slow), inconsistent-catching receivers. Hopefully KB will be a year better and more reliable, and hopefully a lot of Funchesses issues were because he had another reciever throwing to him, but I was never blown away watching him.

The ability to separate is my biggest concern. But again, with already having Ginn, if we can take another speed guy today, I would feel a lot better about things.

[TheRumGone]

Some of them, but I figured he was just pissed about the trade, and would come around.

 

When I first heard what we gave up, I was kind of surprised. But knowing how Gettleman does things, how meticulous he is, and how much he values picks, for him to give up a 3rd and a 6th to draft the guy, that tells me that he saw something special in Funchess and thinks he can contribute immediately. I'm happy with it.

 

i was VERY surprised. and honestly when the name came in i was kind of like huh? damn!.

 

they must see something in this kid.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Thing is, I'm not doing any of those things but simply disagreeing with individual moves that are made. I also have said I loved signing Ginn, Tillman, Oher, Martin, Colman, etc.

That's where perception comes in.

My opposition on this board is turning this into a Proudiddy v Gettleman argument. I have no ego, at least not enough of one to stack myself up against him lol. I'm saying I don't like this, I would've done it this way, and people are perceiving that to mean, "look at my Internet track record where my job isn't on the line! Trust me, my Madden online franchise is a 25x champion!" I'm not the one framing it that way. Like I said, when someone (not you) can't win an argument, they reach for the furthest, most extreme thing to discredit the other. So, if me saying "that's the wrong move" can't be disproven at this moment, what better way to dump on it then to say, "he's an NFL gm and you're not. Shut up and watch."

Okay... Bye bye dialogue!

I have said I disagree with certain moves, and have loved others, with my biggest gripe being that WR has widely been ignored while other strengths have been addressed and addressed again.

I'm watching and say what I think... That's all.

 

There are things I've disagreed with too.  I wasn't a fan of Kelvin Benjamin.  Didn't like the 'double dip' on DTs in 13.  Hated giving Byron Bell the LT job.

 

But the truth is anybody who would have argued against me on those things by saying "the guy in charge knows more than you" actually would have been right, even when it came to Bell.

 

What I see on here a lot is that argument being turned into "Gettleman can do no wrong" by dissenters, when no one is actually saying that.  It's not a good tactic, but I see it used a lot (not saying you've done that).

 

I've disagreed with plenty of draft picks in my time.  Sometimes I've been right.  Sometimes I've been wrong.  I've also loved picks that were absolute crap.  It happens.  I'm just a fan.  I can point to forty-plus years of watching, studying, playing and coaching the game, but in the end I'm still just a fan and my opinion has only as much importance as others choose to ascribe to it.  I believe what I believe, but always accept the notion that there are people directly involved in the game, and even the bad ones still have more info and resources than I do, so my opinion is just that, a fan's opinion.

 

Best advice I can give you: State your case.  Support your case.  Just accept that you're disagreeing with people who, while they aren't perfect, do legitimately have more knowledge, loads more experience and better resources than you, and don't be offended if someone points that out because it's true.

 

You may turn out to be right.  But time is the only thing that will answer that question.

[TheRed]

I wanted speed, Red. And admittedly, I likely got sucked into some trolling from the gettleman circle jerk initially, where every move is fuging einstien-esque, and went too far in my stated opinion of the pick.

I don't love it, but we'll see what happens. I'll be much happier with it if we draft a speed guy today. I'm just not a big fan of filling your WR corps with gigantic, long-striding (slow), inconsistent-catching receivers. Hopefully KB will be a year better and more reliable, and hopefully a lot of Funchesses issues were because he had another reciever throwing to him, but I was never blown away watching him.

The ability to separate is my biggest concern. But again, with already having Ginn, if we can take another speed guy today, I would feel a lot better about things.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we draft another WR.

 

As far as speed, Funchess is definitely not "slow".

 

Listen, take a deep breath man, kick back, open a brew, and watch some of his highlights.

 

[Proudiddy]

my god man. change of heart? i didn't start that and i didn't frame it? don't even know what you're saying at this point.

most reasonable people who don't like what we gave up or don't like the pick don't downplay a man who has been in the business 30 years. They state, we need speed, i hope we get speed in later rounds. Then, if they are reasonable, they will look at things that funchess is really good at.

1. he's athletic as all get out for his size (hurdles tacklers, quick feet, smooth route running, long wingspan)

then they look at bad things

1. not majorly productive, has been known to be soft, catching issues, ect.

you are not reasonable. you are emotional as all get out. but i'm kind of bored with this. its draft time!

You clearly don't understand it TRG. By saying, I didn't frame it or start it, I am stating you created the argument about me stacking my opinion up against gettleman's resume. Which I didn't.

Also, I did reason out why I didn't like the pick (mentioning his drop rate, that he was slow) to which you responded with: bahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa bahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa bahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa bahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa yore egoz!!! 1 (clearly a post looking for thoughtful discussion).

I didn't say anything about his humble beginnings until you trolled me with that post.

But you're right... I'm tired of debating it... I'll see you in the next thread I disagree with something in, bringing another well-deliberated and thoughtful response like the one quoted above.

[TheRumGone]

ego!

[Proudiddy]

Or that one.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Not sold on our first, felt we could have taken Randall and got a good wr with our original pick.....didn't mind trading up for funchess though

[Proudiddy]

There are things I've disagreed with too. I wasn't a fan of Kelvin Benjamin. Didn't like the 'double dip' on DTs in 13. Hated giving Byron Bell the LT job.

But the truth is anybody who would have argued against me on those things by saying "the guy in charge knows more than you" actually would have been right, even when it came to Bell.

What I see on here a lot is that argument being turned into "Gettleman can do no wrong" by dissenters, when no one is actually saying that. It's not a good tactic, but I see it used a lot (not saying you've done that).

I've disagreed with plenty of draft picks in my time. Sometimes I've been right. Sometimes I've been wrong. I've also loved picks that were absolute crap. It happens. I'm just a fan. I can point to forty-plus years of watching, studying, playing and coaching the game, but in the end I'm still just a fan and my opinion has only as much importance as others choose to ascribe to it. I believe what I believe, but always accept the notion that there are people directly involved in the game, and even the bad ones still have more info and resources than I do, so my opinion is just that, a fan's opinion.

Best advice I can give you: State your case. Support your case. Just accept that you're disagreeing with people who, while they aren't perfect, do legitimately have more knowledge, loads more experience and better resources than you, and don't be offended if someone points that out because it's true.

You may turn out to be right. But time is the only thing that will answer that question.

I'm with you on all of that and don't dispute it. Nor would I ever.

But apparently, I'm not immune to being sacked into the occasional pissing contest with other fans here about our dissenting opinions... Oh well...