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Cam breaks down a play call and explains the audible.


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I didn't watch this video.. I just saw the other one where he was taking questions from the crowd. They actually added a laugh track?

 

Yea.  I don't get why it was necessary.  Right at the beginning of the video Cam is asked to break down a call he would make in the huddle vs one he'd make at the line of scrimmage.  He responds "Really?" and they pan to a shot of the crowd, where maybe one person is laughing, but you hear a huge boisterous laugh track.  Doesn't add up.  Maybe it was a laugh they recycled from earlier in the show to make it sound more real, but I'm an audio engineer and I've done poo like this before.  Pretty damn obvious what they did in post.  Don't get why.

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hate it.

 

a lot.

 

Hear me out. Since Cam has gotten into the league... he's bent over backwards to try to get the media to like him. Everything he does is scrutinized and criticized. I have seen at least 3 interviews where they ask Cam to do this. This actually comes from a critique that coming out of college... Cam could not handle an NFL offense because the verbiage was too complex.

 

Carolina fans and local media want Cam to be liked so desperately much that I fear we're going to put him in a position where we water down what makes him special. So we keep putting Cam up like that annoying parent who has their child quote for you their ABC's. No OTHER QB in the league gets this.

 

Hey Cam, tell us about how you used to be a jerk, and how you've matured.

Hey Cam, lets hear a play you would call in the huddle.

 

Sometimes Cam plays right into it and I feel like its a blindspot. With the New Orleans saints and the New England Patriots of the league.. I would be hold a lot of playcalling close to the chest. Im sure he didn't give anything away too valuable.... but its a trend that see so often that it makes me sick.

 

Our local media guys consistently have national media hosts come on.... hoping and praying that they say something good about Cam. And if our coaching staff is not careful... we will miss out on using him properly because we keep trying to get him to be like Peyton Manning (whose only won 1 Superbowl) or Andrew Luck (who hasn't won anything.)

 

There was an interview that Cam Newton did nationally after the Bucs game last year where he was asked, "Can you guys beat the saints?" And Cam responded something similar to, "yes we can, but have to take this one game at time and worry about the next opponent."

 

Deion Sanders, Warren Sapp, and Marshal Faulk all said at once "Good answer, Good Answer!"

They laughed... but I think they further prove what Im trying to get at.

 

Yes, Cam is a great kid, a genuine guy. Most people didn't believe that. But I really hate the dog and pony show he's put through so that people feel more comfortable with him... or just so we can try to prove people wrong.

 

In the same way alot of idiots in our fanbase believe Russell Wilson is overrated, we just need to get over the fact that even when we win a Superbowl... there are going to be people who cant stand Cam. We don't need everyone to like Cam to win.

 

But I digress... that was cute. Just scrap that play from the playbook now. And change your signals now.

 

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Cam is so comfortable with public speaking.

 

ikr. he cracks me up. he's a born leader. 

 

i am confident that in 15 years, we will look back and say that Cam Newton was the best thing to ever happen to this franchise from a player/personnel standpoint.

 

other notables: TD, Keek, Agent89, Greg Olsen, Double Trouble, Ricky Proehl, John Kasay, Moose, etc. ...

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Is he giving away just a little too much info here?

But I digress... that was cute. Just scrap that play from the playbook now. And change your signals now.

 

actually i think what he did was fine. he didnt give away any formation information. and how do we know that he just made up a "fade signal" in his head spur of the moment? if you notice, the fade signal he gave and the slant signal were the same hand gesture in real time. 

 

he didnt say anything about what routes the receivers (except for Benji) were running, and Cam is not a one-read QB like crapperdick. if Benji doesnt get open on his fade, Cam mentioned he had Philly, Greg, and Cotch there to throw to. He obviously goes through his reads. i guess what im saying is that even if the opposing defense knows that Benji is running a fade, they have no idea what the other receivers are running, and that could actually be an advantage for Cam if Benji isnt actually the first read on that particular play. 

 

im just thinking that perhaps you two are making alittle too much out of this and not giving Cam credit for doing a superb job giving fans a glimpse into the mind of a QB without giving away too much information about specific Carolina Panthers plays.

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Why does this video have a laugh track added to it....

Because this is a deliberate feel good piece ... an attempt to present Cam Newton in a positive light. Some may call it "whitewashing." But in the corporate world, it's a marketing strategy called "rebranding."

It works too. don't be me just watch.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/video/cam-newton-gives-lesson-play-110000449.html

I don't know about you guys but before I spend Thursday, Friday and Saturday eating, DRINKING and breathing Draft, I could use a little break. Here's something new to discuss. Yahoo posted these excerpts of a Graham Bensinger interview with Cam. This particular clip is awesome for the Xs and O's who like to dissect play calls.

There's a bunch of other clips and I believe the interview should be airing soon.

Cam talks Jameis and where he wants to be in the future: http://sports.yahoo.com/video/cam-newton-advice-jameis-winston-110000172.html

EDIT: these clips are discussed in another thread. Mods: Jettison this one into the ever expanding nether that is the trash can. I don't like contributing to the clutter.

 

may want to consider adding this piece to the OP: Cam claims he has a girlfriend in this episode

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/cam-newton-going-school-own-110000225.html

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actually i think what he did was fine. he didnt give away any formation information. and how do we know that he just made up a "fade signal" in his head spur of the moment? if you notice, the fade signal he gave and the slant signal were the same hand gesture in real time. 

 

he didnt say anything about what routes the receivers (except for Benji) were running, and Cam is not a one-read QB like crapperdick. if Benji doesnt get open on his fade, Cam mentioned he had Philly, Greg, and Cotch there to throw to. He obviously goes through his reads. i guess what im saying is that even if the opposing defense knows that Benji is running a fade, they have no idea what the other receivers are running, and that could actually be an advantage for Cam if Benji isnt actually the first read on that particular play. 

 

im just thinking that perhaps you two are making alittle too much out of this and not giving Cam credit for doing a superb job giving fans a glimpse into the mind of a QB without giving away too much information about specific Carolina Panthers plays.

What about when he said that in a particular formation, they are trying to get Benji one on one.  You dont think that defenses might try extra hard to disguise coverage and make Cam think he has the look he wants?

 

I really dont think anything he said was that big of a deal either.. I just want him to be careful and understand that he doesnt have to elaborate so much in his answers..  I havent heard any other QBs give away that much info

 

also, his terrible grammar comes from him trying to say too much with his answers.  He would sound smarter if he just gave short and simple answers.

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actually i think what he did was fine. he didnt give away any formation information. and how do we know that he just made up a "fade signal" in his head spur of the moment? if you notice, the fade signal he gave and the slant signal were the same hand gesture in real time. 

 

he didnt say anything about what routes the receivers (except for Benji) were running, and Cam is not a one-read QB like crapperdick. if Benji doesnt get open on his fade, Cam mentioned he had Philly, Greg, and Cotch there to throw to. He obviously goes through his reads. i guess what im saying is that even if the opposing defense knows that Benji is running a fade, they have no idea what the other receivers are running, and that could actually be an advantage for Cam if Benji isnt actually the first read on that particular play. 

 

im just thinking that perhaps you two are making alittle too much out of this and not giving Cam credit for doing a superb job giving fans a glimpse into the mind of a QB without giving away too much information about specific Carolina Panthers plays.

I get what you're saying... and I would agree with you if the context I mentioned was not the backdrop. Here's another interviews where Cam is asked the same thing.

around 6:35. He's asked to do the same thing. Dan Patrick doesn't need his audience to understand how a QB thinks. Then he follows up with the question... "Can you do what Peyton Manning does?" Then Later... he says, "Andrew Luck has an unbelievable voice at the line."

Then Cam goes on to explain why you shouldn't have mics on the field to hear playcalls. The rest of the interview ended up being more about ... tell us how you're not like Peyton or Tom or Andrew Luck than it really was about Cam.

Cam, what did you learn today?

I learned how to give a dummy signal to be more envious of the Peyton Manning and Tom Brady ...

So sure, you can look at it the way you said ... But that's the wrong way to look at it.

(sorry had wrong video in there.)

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What about when he said that in a particular formation, they are trying to get Benji one on one.  You dont think that defenses might try extra hard to disguise coverage and make Cam think he has the look he wants?

 

I really dont think anything he said was that big of a deal either.. I just want him to be careful and understand that he doesnt have to elaborate so much in his answers..  I havent heard any other QBs give away that much info

 

also, his terrible grammar comes from him trying to say too much with his answers.  He would sound smarter if he just gave short and simple answers.

 

fair enough. i just think that Cam is smart enough and comfortable enough at public speaking to give dummy signals during an interview; signals that will mean absolutely nothing to an opposing  defense come September.

 

around 6:35. He's asked to do the same thing. Dan Patrick doesn't need his audience to understand how a QB thinks. Then he follows up with the question... "Can you do what Peyton Manning does?" Then Later... he says, "Andrew Luck has an unbelievable voice at the line."

 

actually i viewed all of that as Cam just being Cam. he seems to be joking around and having fun with Patrick and the audience. Cam specifically says in that interview that he's not trying to be Peyton or Brady. He is just trying to be Cam Newton. and i think Patrick is just asking Cam to comment on his colleagues. there's nothing wrong with that. Patrick doesnt deride Cam or even compare him that much to the others. he is just bringing up discussion points for Cam.

 

Then Cam goes on to explain why you shouldn't have mics on the field to hear playcalls. The rest of the interview ended up being more about ... tell us how you're not like Peyton or Tom or Andrew Luck than it really was about Cam.

Cam, what did you learn today?

I learned how to give a dummy signal to be more envious of the Peyton Manning and Tom Brady ...

 

again i think this is the wrong way to interpret the interview. Cam was asked a question he could have answered in any way possible, and Cam chose to poke alittle fun at himself and his colleagues. it didnt have the feel of "Cam you should be more like the greats" to me. but maybe its just me. 

 

with respect to when he mentions the play calls, i will say the same thing i told EightyNine above: i just believe Cam is too smart to give actual play calls on a national radio program when asked to relate something about NFL schemes. and if I remember correctly, Cam didnt bring up the play calling, Patrick did. Cam gave general answers. yes with specific names, but who knows if they are real? Cam is a great public speaker and improv artist. for all we know, he made every single name of those plays up. 

 

Wiz, we both think that the other person is looking at this the wrong way. i dont feel like Cam has to apologize to anyone for anything. i dont think Cam feels like he has to do that either. you seem to think Cam does think that way, and it colors the way you interpret what questions are asked of Cam, and how Cam responds to those questions. 

 

in short, i just think Cam is being himself and having fun, and doing a great job protecting the integrity of the Panthers' gameplanning in the process. if you disagree, thats fine. to each their own. pie for the video though! :)

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Because this is a deliberate feel good piece ... an attempt to present Cam Newton in a positive light. Some may call it "whitewashing." But in the corporate world, it's a marketing strategy called "rebranding."

It works too. don't be me just watch.

 

I watched the piece.  I get what you're saying about rebranding, but why does Cam need to rebrand?  The guy has a successful clothing line at a major department store, tons of corporate endorsements, he's QB for a team that has won their division two years in a row...etc etc.  Seems like his image is fine and dandy.

 

When I heard the laugh track I felt the video immediately lose credibility.  I was like, really?  Why?  The interview would be fine without it.  

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