This Devin Funchess guy...(WR Michigan)

[LinvilleGorge]

Whoever we pick, I will find a reason to like them.. but when you watch those top QBs, it just seems like a ton of the throws they make look so easy.. I feel like those quick receivers that get separation underneath make it so much easier to complete passes and stay on pace. When I look at the best offenses, seems like that is a common ingredient. Thats why i would rather have a guy like that, instead of a big guy.

One thing that the Patriots have always done is have a running back that can play that role (Kevin Faulk, Woodhead, Vereen). I've seen Brady complete so many third and short passes to them that look so easy. Surprises me more teams cant find guys that can do that stuff. Maybe its just that no one can do it as well as Brady can.

Agreed. Seems like every throw Cam makes is to a blanketed WR. I still like Strong though. He made a ton of heavily contested catches at ASU in part due to the fact that QB was hot trash.

[davos]

Obviously it will depend on who is out there when we pick but I really dont think we will pick a wide receiver in the first unless one of the top 3 or 4 fall and most mocks dont have that happened.  Once you get down past 5 or 6 there isnt much difference between them and what you can get in the third round or lower.  And yeah I am not holding out any hope on Hill.  I was one of the guys saying that I wouldnt draft him before the 3rd round when he came out while some others wanted him in the first.

 

These first 2 rounds are damn hard to project for us this offseason.  Can't even put a Son of a Beach mock together this year haha. 

[EightyNine]

Brady's never had a good deep ball. He had only 1 successful season throwing deep and that was the 18-1 year when Moss was unstoppable and could adjust to everything thrown his way. He's made a career on elite short-intermediate accuracy and going through his reads in a system that fits that skill set perfectly.

 

Maybe he's not the greatest deep ball thrower, but he's still good.

 

I'm not sure where you got the idea that Cam is definitely better at it..Maybe you could show me some numbers or something that would support that statement and I would change my opinion, but I have no reason to believe that based off of what I've seen.

 

Brady is one of (in my opinion, the greatest) QBs of all time.  You could make a better argument by saying Brady has gotten by without a great deep ball, but when you say Cam is definitely better..its hard to back up those statements.

[Dex]

He runs like a 4.4. He has plenty of speed.

4.7 at the combine.

[Jeremy Igo]

The bigger guys are slowed down less by the 10 pounds of pads they wear on Sundays.

The game... It isn't played in underwear.... You 40 time queens

[Bartin]

The bigger guys are slowed down less by the 10 pounds of pads they wear on Sundays.

The game... It isn't played in underwear.... You 40 time queens

 

He played slow in games.

[t96]

Maybe he's not the greatest deep ball thrower, but he's still good.

 

I'm not sure where you got the idea that Cam is definitely better at it..Maybe you could show me some numbers or something that would support that statement and I would change my opinion, but I have no reason to believe that based off of what I've seen.

 

Brady is one of (in my opinion, the greatest) QBs of all time.  You could make a better argument by saying Brady has gotten by without a great deep ball, but when you say Cam is definitely better..its hard to back up those statements.

 

I don't see why you think it's so outrageous for me to say Cam's better at it. It's one aspect of a QB's game that really isn't even one of the top 10 most important factors in being a successful QB, in my opinion. I've been trying to look for stats on balls thrown over 20 yards but I can't find anything for both Brady and Cam's whole careers. I found this:

 

http://nesn.com/2014/10/scout-tom-brady-has-worst-deep-ball-in-nfl-best-short-yardage-qb/

 

The only year where Brady was good was 2007 with Moss (and because of Moss). Doesn't have stats for before that but if I recall correctly he barely attempted many early in his career because he didn't have to. During the Super Bowl years they were a run first offense with an elite D and a game manager QB in Brady. Brady's never been good at the deep ball, and Cam has always been above average. Monsta really doesn't know what he's talking about on this. Cam's flaw is his short-intermediate accuracy which is inconsistent, not his deep ball.

[Jeremy Igo]

He played slow in games.

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how incorrect.

[rodeo]

Cam is not very accurate on his deep passes. I'm not going to get into it with a bunch of people here that can't accept something they've seen with their own eyes for years, but it's true.

 

He's not accurate on his deep passes to Jerricho Goddamned Cotchery. However he routinely hit Ginn, KB, and Brown, Smith, et al.

[Dex]

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how incorrect.

Yes he is. As are you. We already have Funchess on the roster. His name is Ed Dickson. It would be a moronic pick. Also I am not a 40 queen. Someone said he ran a 4.4 I just corrected him.

[rodeo]

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how incorrect.

 

You are very gracious to allow people their opinions, but I urge you to reconsider.

[heel31ok]

maybe we can trade up in the second to get him.

[Jeremy Igo]

Yes he is. As are you. We already have Funchess on the roster. His name is Ed Dickson. It would be a moronic pick. Also I am not a 40 queen. Someone said he ran a 4.4 I just corrected him.

Now I really hope he is the second round pick, which is very possible. This would be fun to bump for years to come.

[pantherphan96]

If we take him, then its goodbye for Swole Bones.