Greg Cosell: Todd Gurley "arguably the #1 prospect in this draft"

[Cpt slay a ho]

We barely could get our rbs enough carries when splitting the carries between d will and stew, now with stew as the main guy we want to get another rb that we will barely be able to get on the field?

[Bartin]

There's a lot of speculation that Miami will either take Gurley at 14 or trade back a few spots and draft him in the high teens or low 20s although dropping behind San Diego could be risky. Apparently their GM loves him.

[rayzor]

I like Gurley a lot, but ACL injuries are still scary.  Sure, they're not as dire as they were a decade plus ago, but it's still a very significant injury.  A lot of guys come back just fine these days, but some are never the same.  

 

The concern I have is that Gurley doesn't seem to be the most durable guy out there and with his running style he takes a pounding.  That's a worrisome combo.  I get the Adrian Peterson comparisons.  Gurley is huge, fast, and runs hard as hell.

 

It's also worth noting that when Gurley went out, UGA's rushing game didn't miss a beat.  Last year, Gurley had 123 carries for 911 yards for a 7.4ypc average and 9 TDs.  Nick Chubb had 219 carries for 1547 yards for a 7.1ypc average and 15 TDs.  That's virtually identical production.

 

either get their OL or at least wait and get the guy who produced without missing several games a season because of injuries.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Richardson has some physical limitations as a runner, but the stories that have come out about him pretty clearly indicate his problem is attitude. He just hasn't adjusted to not being the most athletic dude in the room anymore.

 

I remember when Jim Brown got blasted after the Browns drafted Richardson because he came out and said that Richardson basically looked like an ordinary talent to him.  Brown simply said that he didn't see anything special in the kid as far as his NFL talent goes.

 

In hindsight, he was 100% right.  Maybe the Browns should've asked their former Hall of Famer what he thought before taking him #3 overall.

[top dawg]

Greg is on drugs and I'm a huge fan.

Before the injury he was a 15 snap player. The guy that replaced him put up similar numbers. Coming off acl injury and refuse combine doctors/teams to take a look.

If you promise me he'll have a 10+ career with very minor injuries, I'd support drafting him.

Other wise him and stew would be tour de' france buds for 75% of preseason, regular season, TC, and OTAs.

Look, I respect Chubb, no doubt, but to say that he is as talented as Gurley is not being totally insightful about the situation. Gurley is much more of a dynamic home run threat with better overall receiving and multidimensional rushing. The only real advantage that Chubb has is that as of now he has been more durable. He gets a lot of production by the sheer numbers which isn't a bad thing, but Gurley is still the back with the greater upside and ability to score every time that he gets the ball.

People need to stop with that comparison.

[LinvilleGorge]

Look, I respect Chubb, no doubt, but to say that he is as talented as Gurley is not being totally insightful about the situation. Gurley is much more of a dynamic home run threat with better overall receiving and multidimensional rusher. The only real advantage that Chubb has is that as of now he has been more durable. He gets a lot of production by the sheer numbers which isn't a bad thing, but Gurley is still the back with the greater upside and ability to score every time that he gets the ball.

People need to stop with that comparison.

 

Todd Gurley's average yard per carry:  7.4ypc last season, 6.4ypc for his career

Todd Gurley's longest run:  55 yards last season, 75 yards for his career

Todd Gurley's highest rushing total for a season:  1385

It's worth noting that he only rushed for 1000 yards once at Georgia and that was as a freshman.  Gurley also never ran for double digit TDs in a season

 

Nick Chubb last season....

7.1ypc

83 yard longest run

1547 yards

14 TDs

 

Chubb did that with 219 carries, three less than Gurley had as a freshman.

 

Gurley is the better receiver at this point, but Chubb's 18 catches for 213 and 2 TDs surpasses Gurley's 16 catches for 117 yards and 0 TDs as a freshman, so Chubb may be the better receiver of the two at the same point in their respective careers.

 

Sorry man, looks like Chubb may just be plain better than Gurley.

[top dawg]

Todd Gurley's average yard per carry: 7.4ypc last season, 6.4ypc for his career

Todd Gurley's longest run: 55 yards last season, 75 yards for his career

Todd Gurley's highest rushing total for a season: 1385

It's worth noting that he only rushed for 1000 yards once at Georgia and that was as a freshman. Gurley also never ran for double digit TDs in a season

Nick Chubb last season....

7.1ypc

83 yard longest run

1547 yards

14 TDs

Chubb did that with 219 carries, three less than Gurley had as a freshman.

Gurley is the better receiver at this point, but Chubb's 18 catches for 213 and 2 TDs surpasses Gurley's 16 catches for 117 yards and 0 TDs as a freshman, so Chubb may be the better receiver of the two at the same point in their respective careers.

Sorry man, looks like Chubb may just be plain better than Gurley.

You're doing a lot of projecting, but we will see.

[LinvilleGorge]

You're doing a lot of projecting, but we will see.

I actually did zero projecting. I talked 100% about what both have already done on the field with no talk about future potential.

I did do some projecting earlier saying B.J. Emmons would be a beast.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

All this says is since 2007, the talent level hasn't been there to justify taking a RB in the first (not even taking into account those RBs drafted in later years that if re-drafted are surefire firsts: McCoy, Murray, etc.)

 

That's not the case in this draft.

 

You don't think that those 15 front offices thought the same thing? They wouldn't have touched those RBs with a 20 foot pole if they had any doubts in them. That's why nobody drafts backs high anymore. The proof is in the pudding. RBs aren't worth risking a first rounder on these days, period. And your whole redraft statement helps prove my point. You can find fine backs from the 2nd-UDFA. Just don't risk a first rounder on one of these guys.

 

 

You could do a list like this for every single position in football. Also being drafted in the first round does not necessarily mean you have first round talent. I mean the Browns drafted Manziel in the first round last year and Brandon Weeden at QB in 2012.

 

 

No you can't. That is a list of literally every back drafted in the first since '07. No tainting the list, picking only the failures. That's every single first round running back since AP and Beast Mode were drafted. Period. Find one more position where you have to go back more than a year or two to find someone worth a first rounder and then get back to me.

[KJ89]

I trust Gettleman.

Would love Gurley in the first.

[top dawg]

I actually did zero projecting. I talked 100% about what both have already done on the field with no talk about future potential.

I did do some projecting earlier saying B.J. Emmons would be a beast.

 

You may not have done so expressly, but you just conveniently forgot about Gurley's other two years. You're basically saying that Chubb is the better back based upon one year, and that doesn't even take into account the eye test.

[LinvilleGorge]

You may not have done so expressly, but you just conveniently forgot about Gurley's other two years. You're basically saying that Chubb is the better back based upon one year, and that doesn't even take into account the eye test.

Say what? I gave an overview of his entire career at UGA. Those best year stats were from his freshman year. His other two seasons were shortened by injury, but he showed major improvements as a received in his sophomore year and then had his highest career ypc average this past season. I didn't try to focus on any one season in particular with Gurley. Obviously there's only one season to go off of with Chubb.

[top dawg]

Say what? I gave an overview of his entire career at UGA. Those best year stats were from his freshman year. His other two seasons were shortened by injury, but he showed major improvements as a received in his sophomore year and then had his highest career ypc average this past season. I didn't try to focus on any one season in particular with Gurley. Obviously there's only one season to go off of with Chubb.

 

You just can't discount what Gurley was doing last season. He was in for a monster year, better than either his or Chubb's freshman year.

[Mother Grabber]

Hopefully, someone will take him before us, and we won't have to worry about it