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Greg Cosell: Todd Gurley "arguably the #1 prospect in this draft"


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Look, I respect Chubb, no doubt, but to say that he is as talented as Gurley is not being totally insightful about the situation. Gurley is much more of a dynamic home run threat with better overall receiving and multidimensional rushing. The only real advantage that Chubb has is that as of now he has been more durable. He gets a lot of production by the sheer numbers which isn't a bad thing, but Gurley is still the back with the greater upside and ability to score every time that he gets the ball.

People need to stop with that comparison.

Dawg I know my grammar/spelling/posting skills are the worst, but I didnt mention nothing about talent. Thankfully LG showed why I stated number wise they are similar. I could have easily stated chubb numbers where a little bit better. They where considering he miss out on carries form the two games gurley was healthy. I believe gurley would have similar numbers to chub, if he remained healthy the whole season. The bulldawg machine kept rolling without gurley. It speaks to the team, OL, coaches, and playcalling. Not saying gurley isn't talented, just I have a few big questions. Specially when I guy listen too is calling him maybe "#1" player. His best plays do make your jaw drop. He could be the greatest player in NFL history, but that would not matter if hes in street clothes on gamedays.

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to be fair, his doctor told him not to allow teams to check his knee at the combine. one prospect had an ankle twisted so bad he re injured it, and could not do the field drills at the combine.

if you are hurt in february and can not perform, the NFL sends you back to indianapolis to get checked again.all 32 teams get the updated reports on the prospects. he should be one of those people who will get looked at again. i do believe this happens this week actually.

They where right to advise him not to show the meds if he's a little behind or has any other issues/setbacks etc. If he's way ahead and both legs are the same size, what's there to hide? A lot guys who get acls injury, the other leg has to carry more of your weight so it gets bigger. The whole leg calf, thigh, even your foot gets bigger form stress and fluid. Etc etc.

All that said the recent reports I've heard say his knee is looking just fine. No issues.

I'll re-track this issue once he gos, if he even gos back to indy and let's the combine docs exam that. Same for the 4 or so panther docs, I even want a report on his ankles and thigh cause past issues there. If he declined the panthers docs access to his new current medcails, no way id condone that.

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A couple of weeks ago, I would have said no, don't take the running back.  Yet after someone said he reminds them of Adrian Peterson, I decided to take another look at him.  My biggest question with Gurley concerned his breakaway speed.  Does he have the potential to run for big yardage on any given down?  After looking at some of his career highlights, I'm officially on board with him being the pick.  He could be this generation's Jim Brown.

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A drop in production but by no means does that mean he is worse than he was his rookie year smh.

Has cam gotten worse since entering the league?

Cam didn't have a drop in production except for this year, and yes he played worse this year than 2013, but that was due to injuries. Morris is a somewhat above average RB who benefitted due to scheme for one year and came back to earth. He could never carry an offense like a guy like Gurley could.

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Cam didn't have a drop in production except for this year, and yes he played worse this year than 2013, but that was due to injuries. Morris is a somewhat above average RB who benefitted due to scheme for one year and came back to earth. He could never carry an offense like a guy like Gurley could.

Cam has seen drop in production in passing yardage, rushing touchdowns, in completion percentage, in rushing yards. All throughout his career not just last year.

By your logic cam is worse than his rookie year no?

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Cam has seen drop in production in passing yardage, rushing touchdowns, in completion percentage, in rushing yards. All throughout his career not just last year.

By your logic cam is worse than his rookie year no?

His passer rating went up every single year, that's how you measure overall quality of a quarterback's play. The yardage and touchdowns decrease is a product of the offense and Shula. Last year he did play worse than even his rookie year, but that was mainly due to injuries screwing up his fundamentals. Morris' yards didn't just go down, his YPC did. Since Griffin's running threat hasn't been the main factor for defenses to defend against, Morris has gotten worse. He was never that good to begin with anyways. Just average. And no receiving threat whatsoever, or pass protection skill. That was all Roy Helu's job.

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Taking a quick peek at Cam's stats, the lack of a deep threat last season (and to an extent even the year before as Smitty lost a step )sticks out like a sore thumb.  Cam's longest pass plays in previous years:  91 yards in '11, 82 yards in '12, 79 yards (2x) in '13.  Cam's longest pass play last year:  51 yards.  20+ yard plays:  65 in '11, 57 in '12, 33 in '13, 37 in '14.  40+ yard plays:  9 in '11, 11 in '12, 7 in '13, 4 in '14. 

 

We gotta get somebody with some wheels in this receiving corps.

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His passer rating went up every single year, that's how you measure overall quality of a quarterback's play. The yardage and touchdowns decrease is a product of the offense and Shula. Last year he did play worse than even his rookie year, but that was mainly due to injuries screwing up his fundamentals. Morris' yards didn't just go down, his YPC did. Since Griffin's running threat hasn't been the main factor for defenses to defend against, Morris has gotten worse. He was never that good to begin with anyways. Just average. And no receiving threat whatsoever, or pass protection skill. That was all Roy Helu's job.

Morris has been a top 10 back since entering the league.

"Never that good" "just average"

Just for comparison sake we had two rbs getting paid huge compared to what Morris as a 6th rounder makes and those two rbs don't even combine to make Morris' career yardage.

You sound like one of those football fans who only watches his team play on Sunday and acts like he knows about every player or team even though he doesn't watch them. I live in DC. I sadly have to watch the Redskins on Sunday's. I've seen Morris his whole career here and those quotes above are completely off base. You give cam a pass and list excuses as to reasons why his numbers are down but since you don't watch the Redskins or follow the team I doubt you'd know any contributing factors as to why his numbers might have decreased.

it's not because he's gotten worse

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Morris has been a top 10 back since entering the league.

"Never that good" "just average"

Just for comparison sake we had two rbs getting paid huge compared to what Morris as a 6th rounder makes and those two rbs don't even combine to make Morris' career yardage.

You sound like one of those football fans who only watches his team play on Sunday and acts like he knows about every player or team even though he doesn't watch them. I live in DC. I sadly have to watch the Redskins on Sunday's. I've seen Morris his whole career here and those quotes above are completely off base. You give cam a pass and list excuses as to reasons why his numbers are down but since you don't watch the Redskins or follow the team I doubt you'd know any contributing factors as to why his numbers might have decreased.

it's not because he's gotten worse

Thanks.

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