NFL.com: 7 teams with most obvious 1st-round draft need (Panthers #4)

[gettlemanjack]

Okay link king, must have been earlier than I thought when he "shot up boards".

Either way, there was definitely a time period when he supposedly rocketed from a mid-round pick to a near 1st round lock, except that it was obviously a bunch of misinformation getting fed to the media "analysts".

Moses was a 1st R pick from the beginning of the draft process because of how great he was his senior year (he was a 1st Team All-ACC LT). His stock fell because of a crappy combine. Complete opposite of Humphries who didn't play his senior year like Moses did and had a great combine unlike Moses

[gettlemanjack]

I haven't seen much out of Humphries to be impressed about. IMO, he's this year's version of Morgan Moses. A guy who was being projected as a mid-round pick for most of the pre-draft process, but then "shot up draft boards" after the combine. Seems like most of these guys who "shoot up boards" often end up going right around where they were thought to belong all along. Gotta remember, you can't believe a thing coming from teams this time of year. Highly likely to be misleading info. No one wants anyone else to know anything about how they view prospects.

Humphries was a junior and scouts don't pay much attention to juniors until they declare because they have hundreds and hundreds of seniors to scout first.

As for Moses, he is most similar to Ereck Flowers. Compare the combines:

Size

6-6/329 - Flowers

6-5/319 - Scherff

6-6/314 - Moses

6-7/313 - Peat

6-5/309 - Clemmings

6-5/307 - Humphries

6-6/306 - Fisher

6-6/305 - Laurence Gibson

6-4/305 - Collins

40 Yrd Dash:

5.01 - Fisher

5.04 - Laurence Gibson

5.05 - Scherff

5.12 - Humphries

5.12 - Collins

5.14 - Clemmings

5.18 - Peat

5.31 - Flowers

5.35 - Moses

20 Yrd Dash:

2.89 - Laurence Gibson

2.97 - Fisher

2.98 - Scherff

2.98 - Peat

3.02 - Humphries

3.02 - Clemmings

3.04 - Collins

3.13 - Flowers

3.19 - Moses

10 Yrd Dash:

1.71 - Laurence Gibson

1.80 - Scherff

1.80 - Fisher

1.81 - Peat

1.82 - Clemmings

1.84 - Humphries

1.87 - Collins

1.90 - Flowers

1.98 - Moses

225 Lb. Bench Reps:

37 - Flowers

DNP - Moses (pectoral)

35 - Sean Hickey

36 - Mitch Morse

31 - Mark Glowinski

30 - Cameron Erving

30 - Ali Marpet

26 - Humphries

25 - Fisher

24 - Laurence Gibson

23 - Scherff

23 - Cedric Ogbuehi

22 - Clemmings

21 - Collins

DNP - Peat (elbow)

Vertical Jump:

33.5 - Laurence Gibson

32.5 - Fisher

32.5 - Clemmings

31.0 - Humphries

31.0 - Peat

27.0 - Collins

21.5 - Moses

DNP - Flowers (choice)

DNP - Scherff (hamstring injury)

20 Yrd Shuttle:

4.33 - Fisher

4.54 - Clemmings

4.56 - Laurence Gibson

4.62 - Peat

4.63 - Collins

4.64 - Humphries

4.95 - Moses

DNP - Flowers (choice)

DNP - Scherff (hamstring injury)

3-Cone Drill:

7.25 - Fisher

7.68 - Clemmings

7.70 - Collins

7.72 - Laurence Gibson

7.87 - Humphries

7.93 - Moses

8.01 - Peat

DNP - Flowers (choice)

DNP - Scherff (hamstring injury)

[carpanfan96]

Flowers is a RT/RG in the NFL, only really two in the top 6 have the athleticism/foot speed to play LT. So if Carolina likes him in the first they aren't sold on Remmers at all.

[section543]

Humphries was a junior and scouts don't pay much attention to juniors until they declare because they have hundreds and hundreds of seniors to scout first.

As for Moses, he is most similar to Ereck Flowers. Compare the combines:

Size

6-6/329 - Flowers

6-5/319 - Scherff

6-6/314 - Moses

6-7/313 - Peat

6-5/309 - Clemmings

6-5/307 - Humphries

6-6/306 - Fisher

6-6/305 - Laurence Gibson

6-4/305 - Collins

40 Yrd Dash:

5.01 - Fisher

5.04 - Laurence Gibson

5.05 - Scherff

5.12 - Humphries

5.12 - Collins

5.14 - Clemmings

5.18 - Peat

5.31 - Flowers

5.35 - Moses

20 Yrd Dash:

2.89 - Laurence Gibson

2.97 - Fisher

2.98 - Scherff

2.98 - Peat

3.02 - Humphries

3.02 - Clemmings

3.04 - Collins

3.13 - Flowers

3.19 - Moses

10 Yrd Dash:

1.71 - Laurence Gibson

1.80 - Scherff

1.80 - Fisher

1.81 - Peat

1.82 - Clemmings

1.84 - Humphries

1.87 - Collins

1.90 - Flowers

1.98 - Moses

225 Lb. Bench Reps:

37 - Flowers

DNP - Moses (pectoral)

35 - Sean Hickey

36 - Mitch Morse

31 - Mark Glowinski

30 - Cameron Erving

30 - Ali Marpet

26 - Humphries

25 - Fisher

24 - Laurence Gibson

23 - Scherff

23 - Cedric Ogbuehi

22 - Clemmings

21 - Collins

DNP - Peat (elbow)

Vertical Jump:

33.5 - Laurence Gibson

32.5 - Fisher

32.5 - Clemmings

31.0 - Humphries

31.0 - Peat

27.0 - Collins

21.5 - Moses

DNP - Flowers (choice)

DNP - Scherff (hamstring injury)

20 Yrd Shuttle:

4.33 - Fisher

4.54 - Clemmings

4.56 - Laurence Gibson

4.62 - Peat

4.63 - Collins

4.64 - Humphries

4.95 - Moses

DNP - Flowers (choice)

DNP - Scherff (hamstring injury)

3-Cone Drill:

7.25 - Fisher

7.68 - Clemmings

7.70 - Collins

7.72 - Laurence Gibson

7.87 - Humphries

7.93 - Moses

8.01 - Peat

DNP - Flowers (choice)

DNP - Scherff (hamstring injury)

Gibson looks like the guy