If we go defense at 25, who do you like?

[davos]

I did this last year and it was Kyle Fuller, Shazier, Ealy, and Verrett leading the charge.  Right there is some perspective on DG's drafting if you ever want some.   

 

...Now I know we've added Coleman, Tillman, and Trusnik but still think defensive guys going to us early is still as possible as it was before. 

 

So: I'm looking at a range.  This consists of players that may likely be drafted ahead of us and could fall, those being hyped that at first seemed past-1st picks, and everywhere in between:

 

 

Landon Collins SS

 

Kevin Johnson CB

 

Eric Kendricks LB

 

Alvin Dupree DE

 

Arik Armstead DE/DT

 

Shaq Thompson S/OLB?

 

Malcom Brown DT (I know you may hate it, but don't think DT is out of bounds in this draft)

 

Jalen Collins CB

 

Danny Shelton DT (This guy is constantly projected high but I totally see him falling)

 

Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE

 

Eli Harold OLB

 

Eddie Goldman DT

 

(Considering to add: Darby, Jalen Collins)

 

 

 

So: On the flip-side, there's some appealing options on offense like Peat, Parker, Gurley, Strong, and Flowers but it could be very likely one of these defensive players are pigeon-ed in between them on our overall big board and be our guy come the pick. 

 

Who are you liking?

[rodeo]

I think we bought ourselves a year to get by in the secondary with Tillman and Coleman, without having to draft someone high. I could see us grabbing an OLB or a pass rusher.

[The Lone Panther]

Owamagbe Odighizuwa

 

 

[t96]

Landon or Shaq.

[saX man]

I noticed Collins last year and liked him right up until the offseason...but it didn't stop.  But now for some reason all of these nitpicky faults are being pointed out about him but at the end of the day, he's still way talented.  I've had the feeling Ronald has wanted a starting safety leader for some time and Collins could be that at SS.

[Bj-Monster23]

Diggy or Shaq

[WOW!!]

Is Eli Harold a DT??

[LinvilleGorge]

Preston Smith

[davos]

Is Eli Harold a DT??

 

No he's not haha. Aahaha!

[davos]

Preston Smith

 

No doubt I'm a Smith fan but you'd take him over Kendricks, Kevin Johnson and Landon Collins?

[gettlemanjack]

from the Landon Collins thread on the Draft forum here at the Huddle:

It would be fun to watch Andrew Luck vs Landon Collins in

basketball. Luck is bigger, and he beat Landon Collins in every event

at the Combine other than the 40 yard dash. Neither did the bench

press (Landon sat on his Combine results at his Pro Day, except for

the bench, which he did an unimpressive 16 reps)

Cal Morton @ TexaSun

26 Feb 12

Wish the QBs at the #nflcombine had done benchpress , Andrew

Luck would have killed it.

225 Lb. Bench Reps:

16 - Landon Collins

DNP - Luck

Size:

6-4/234 - Luck

6-0/228 - Landon Collins

Vertical Jump:

36.0 - Luck

35.0 - Landon Collins

Broad Jump:

10'04" - Luck

10'00" - Landon Collins

3-Cone Drill:

6.80 - Luck

7:38 - Landon Collins

20 Yrd Shuttle:

4.28 - Luck

4.33 - Landon Collins

PhillyDraft @ Randyljobst

Mar 6

You like Landon Collins? You know his 3- cone time is slower than

the Eagles center right?

Philadelphia Daily News Les Bowen @ LesBowen

Apr 2

Just based on how they view safety position -- athleticism ,

versatility key -- I wouldn’t be shocked if Eagles passed on

Landon Collins

Philadelphia Sports Reporter for NJ.com Matt Lombardo @

MattLombardo975

16m

When you're scraping the bottom of the safety barrel in free

agency, kind of makes you maybe appreciate Nate Allen that

much more..Maybe.

[gettlemanjack]

how is Shaq Thompson not on there???

from one of the Shaq Thompson threads:

Liked him better before the combine.

even NFL.com called Shaq's combine "disappointing." I think the problem was that, based how dominant Shaq looked in college, people were expecting him to put up these Calvin Johnson-type numbers. But if you look at the "disappointing" Combine numbers Shaq did put up, they are right in line with the All-Pro players he compares to. First look at his size. He's the same size as Thomas Davis, All-Pro LB Lavonte David and All-Pro SS Kam Chancellor:

Size

6-3/242 - MLB Luke Kuechly All-Pro

6-1/242 - ILB Patrick Willis All-Pro

6-0/242 - ILB Navorro Bowman All-Pro

6-0/241 - MLB Bobby Wagner All-Pro

6-1/237 - ILB Ryan Shazier Top 15 pick last yr

6-2/234 - ILB C.J. Mosley All-Pro <---------------

6-1/233 - OLB Lavonte David All-Pro <---------------

6-3/231 - SS Kam Chancellor All-Pro <---------------

6-1/230 - OLB Thomas Davis <---------------

6-0/228 - Shaq Thompson <---------------

6-0/228 - Landon Collins <---------------

5-11/215 - RB Marshawn Lynch All-Pro

6-0/213 - RB DeMarco Murray All-Pro

6-0/211 - SS Eric Berry All-Pro

5-10/211 - SS TJ Ward All-Pro

5-10/208 - FS Earl Thomas All-Pro

5-10/206 - SS Troy Polamalu

5-11/204 - CB Darrelle Revis All-Pro

5-11/201 - FS Ed Reed

5-11/200 - RB Jamaal Charles All-Pro

5-10/198 - RB LeSean McCoy All-Pro

5-11/196 - RB CJ Spiller Pro Bowl

6-3/195 - CB Richard Sherman All-Pro

5-10/193 CB Joe Haden All-Pro

5-11/193 - FS Devin McCourty All-Pro

Next look at his upper body strength. Of those six guys his size, Shaq is stronger than all of them but Kam Chancellor:

225 Lb. Bench Reps:

22 - Kam Chancellor

20 - Shaq Thompson <---------------

20 - OLB Aldon Smith All-Pro

19 - Lavonte David All-Pro <---------------

18 - Tamba Hali All-Pro

17 - Todd Gurley

16 - LB Vontaze Burfict Pro Bowl

16 - Landon Collins <---------------

15 - ILB C.J. Mosley All-Pro <---------------

15 - TE Jimmy Graham All-Pro

7 - WR TY Hilton Pro Bowl

DNP - Thomas Davis <--------------

Then look at his lower body strength, it's the same as the All-Pro players he compares to:

Broad Jump:

09'11" - Lavonte David All-Pro <---------------

09'10" - ILB C.J. Mosley All-Pro <---------------

09'09" - Shaq Thompson <---------------

09'08" - Kam Chancellor All-Pro <---------------

09'07" - Thomas Davis <---------------

09'05" - FS Earl Thomas All-Pro

08'11" - RB LeSean McCoy All-Pro

Then look at his 40, also the same as the All-Pro players he compares to:

40 Yrd Dash:

4.60 - CB Richard Sherman All-Pro

4.60 - FS Devin McCourty All-Pro

4.62 - CB Joe Haden All-Pro

4.63 - ILB C.J. Mosley All-Pro <---------------

4.64 - Shaq Thompson <---------------

4.65 - Lavonte David All-Pro <---------------

4.66 - Thomas Davis <---------------

4.68 - TE Rob Gronkowski All-Pro

4.69 - Kam Chancellor All-Pro <---------------

4.77 - ILB Navorro Bowman All-Pro

4.83 - Drew Brees All-Pro

4.91 - JJ Watt All-Pro

5.24 - Tom Brady All-Pro

then look at his 3-cone. Note how much more athletic Shaq and Thomas Davis are than All-Pros like Lavonte David and Kam Chancellor:

3-Cone Drill:

6.99 - Shaq Thompson <---------------

7.00 - TE Vernon Davis All-Pro

7.03 - WR TY Hilton Pro Bowl

7.04 - TE Greg Olsen Pro Bowl

7.05 - RB Marshawn Lynch All-Pro

7.09 - OLB Thomas Davis <---------------

7.09 - RB Adrian Peterson All-Pro

7.10 - WR Dez Bryant All-Pro

7.28 - OLB Lavonte David All-Pro <---------------

7.28 - KR Cordarrelle Patterson Pro Bowl

7.28 - RB DeMarco Murray All-Pro

7.30 - ILB C.J. Mosley All-Pro <---------------

7.36 - SS Kam Chancellor All-Pro <---------------

7.38 - Landon Collins <---------------

7.51 - LB Vontaze Burflict Pro Bowl

then look at the 20 yard shuttle, which measures sideline-to-sideline speed. Here both Thomas Davis and Shaq put up ridiculous Hall of Fame level numbers:

20 Yrd Shuttle:

3.97 - Thomas Davis <---------------

4.07 - CB Patrick Peterson All-Pro

4.08 - Shaq Thompson <---------------

4.08 - CB Darrelle Revis All-Pro

4.11 - WR Phillip Dorsett

4.12 - Luke Kuechly All-Pro

4.14 - WR Kevin White

4.17 - TE Vernon Davis All-Pro

4.17 - WR Alshon Jeffery Pro Bowl

4.18 - Cam Newton Pro Bowl

4.18 - RB LeSean McCoy All-Pro

4.18 - RB DeMarco Murray All-Pro

4.19 - WR DeSean Jackson Pro Bowl

4.21 - WR AJ Green All-Pro

4.21 - RB LaDainian Tomlinson All-Pro

4.21 - ILB Ryan Shazier Top 15 pick last yr

4.22 - RB Jamaal Charles All-Pro

4.22 - Lavonte David All-Pro <---------------

4.23 - SS Eric Berry All-Pro

4.25 - WR Julio Jones All-Pro

4.28 - Bobby Wagner All-Pro

4.33 - Richard Sherman All-Pro

4.33 - Landon Collins <---------------

4.34 - CB Joe Haden All-Pro

4.36 - WR TY Hilton Pro Bowl

4.40 - Adrian Peterson All-Pro

4.40 - KR Cordarrelle Patterson Pro Bowl

4.40 - ILB C.J. Mosley All-Pro <---------------

4.41 - Kam Chancellor All-Pro <---------------

4.45 - Jimmy Graham All-Pro

4.46 - WR Dez Bryant All-Pro

4.47 - TE Rob Gronkowski All-Pro

4.48 - TE Greg Olsen Pro Bowl

4.55 - Marshawn Lynch All-Pro

4.59 - ILB Navorro Bowman All-Pro

Finally, look at Shaq's vertical. Nothing special but still as good or better than all three of the reigning 2014 All-Pro safeties: Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor and Eric Weddle:

Vertical Jump:

33.5 - Shaq Thompson <---------------

33.5 - TE Rob Gronkowski All-Pro

33.5 - FS Eric Weddle All-Pro

.33.0 - WR Amari Cooper

32.0 - SS Kam Chancellor All-Pro <---------------

32.0 - FS Earl Thomas All-Pro <---------------

31.0 - WR Jordy Nelson All-Pro

24.5 - QB Tom Brady All-Pro

[LinvilleGorge]

No doubt I'm a Smith fan but you'd take him over Kendricks, Kevin Johnson and Landon Collins?

 

Honestly... yeah, I would.

[gettlemanjack]

How is Eddie Goldman not on there???

Eddie Goldman thread: