Phillip Dorsett to meet with Panthers

[Ivan The Awesome]

Is it really a reach if you think the guy can get you over 800 yards and 5-8 tds his rookie season?

Since you can see the future, tell me the lotto number of the next biggest pot. Tell me who the Antichrist is and tell me is humanity is actually going to embark on interstellar travel. Lastly what year the Panthers win the Super Bowl..

[mc52beast]

Not only would he bring speed to Carolina but he would also bring some media attn, what with the last name and all.

[gettlemanjack]

a couple days ago, Mel Kiper named Dorsett to his list of the 10 safest picks in 2015 NFL draft

The only other receiver to make the list was Amari Cooper.

Kiper wrote that Dorsett will be gone in the Top 35 (by the 3rd pick of the 2nd R) and that:

"while Dorsett is the guy with the speed to simply blow away cornerbacks who don't have plus-plus recovery speed, he also has the quickness to win in the slot and do major damage against zone coverages. ... He's safe because he's so much more than a sprinter out there, and he's going to be a handful to cover wherever he is lined up."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/story/_/id/12586255/leonard-williams-10-safest-picks-2015-nfl-draft

[Ken]

Hoping some players rise late so he falls to the Panthers in the 2nd....

 

[Woodie]

So far I've been somewhat lukewarm on Dorsett.  2nd or 3rd round is about where I thought he should go.  However, I just went back and looked at some of his clips on draftbreakdown, and I'm starting to re-think my position. 

 

I'm not 100% sold on him as a 1st round pick yet, but it's not as outlandish an idea as I once thought.  Not that I think he's the greatest receiver since Jerry Rice or anything, but for me it's about fit.  Last year, I felt our biggest need was a guy that could turn nothing into something.  Yes, we need speed, but we need more than just the type of speed that can take the top off, we need the kind of speed that can take a short 5 yard reception and turn it into a 30 yard gain in the blink of an eye.  And that's the kind of speed Dorsett has.

 

That's what was so enticing about Brandon Cooks last year.  It's not the deep ball, it's the danger a player like this causes the defense.  Now, you can find all kinds of track guys with that kind of speed, but usually they can't catch, so are useless on the football field.  But the thing I find most impressive about Dorsett is not his speed, but the fact he is a good hands catcher.  He's not going to give you much as a blocker, but as a receiver, I think he's the exact type to open things up for KB (and our run game) and would perfectly compliment Benjamin's strengths.  He's a guy you have to pay attention to, or he can make you pay dearly for the oversight.  And that, IMO, is the biggest missing ingredient for our offense.  If we added nothing but him to what we already have, I think our offense will be exponentially better than last year...not just because of what he would do, but what his presence would allow the rest of our playmakers to do as well.

 

Sometimes it's not who's the better overall player, but who's the better fit for your team.   

[Ken]

So far I've been somewhat lukewarm on Dorsett.  2nd or 3rd round is about where I thought he should go.  However, I just went back and looked at some of his clips on draftbreakdown, and I'm starting to re-think my position. 

 

I'm not 100% sold on him as a 1st round pick yet, but it's not as outlandish an idea as I once thought.  Not that I think he's the greatest receiver since Jerry Rice or anything, but for me it's about fit.  Last year, I felt our biggest need was a guy that could turn nothing into something.  Yes, we need speed, but we need more than just the type of speed that can take the top off, we need the kind of speed that can take a short 5 yard reception and turn it into a 30 yard gain in the blink of an eye.  And that's the kind of speed Dorsett has.

 

That's what was so enticing about Brandon Cooks last year.  It's not the deep ball, it's the danger a player like this causes the defense.  Now, you can find all kinds of track guys with that kind of speed, but usually they can't catch, so are useless on the football field.  But the thing I find most impressive about Dorsett is not his speed, but the fact he is a good hands catcher.  He's not going to give you much as a blocker, but as a receiver, I think he's the exact type to open things up for KB (and our run game) and would perfectly compliment Benjamin's strengths.  He's a guy you have to pay attention to, or he can make you pay dearly for the oversight.  And that, IMO, is the biggest missing ingredient for our offense.  If we added nothing but him to what we already have, I think our offense will be exponentially better than last year...not just because of what he would do, but what his presence would allow the rest of our playmakers to do as well.

 

Sometimes it's not who's the better overall player, but who's the better fit for your team.   

 

Agreed. Dorsett would be a perfect fit for us. He can play slot or as the Z for us. Really hope we draft him.

[gettlemanjack]

http://alendumonjic.com/2015/04/06/2015-nfl-draft-studying-the-class-of-wide-receivers/

interesting breakdown of WR prospects that concludes:

-Kevin White - "Reminiscent of a young Kenny Britt at Rutgers."

-Amari Cooper - "is reminiscent of Houston Texans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins when Hopkins was at Clemson."

-DeVante Parker - "Similar to the New England Patriots’ Brandon LaFell"

-Jaelen Strong - "The same style of receiver as New York Giants’ Rueben Randle."

-Breshad Perriman - "has the potential to be a solid starting wide receiver in the NFL."

-Dorial Green-Beckham - "A project."

-Devin Smith - "A wildcard in the draft"

-Phillip Dorsett - "Most closely resembles Arizona Cardinals wide receiver John Brown."

as a rookie last year, John Brown beat out Ted Ginn and was very productive with horrible QB play. Cardinals' Top 7 receiving yard leaders last year:

841 yds, 6 TDs - WR Michael Floyd

784 yds, 2 TDs - WR Larry Fitzgerald

696 yds, 5 TDs - WR John Brown

395 yds, 2 TDs - RB Andre Ellington

350 yds, 1 TD - TE John Carlson

229 yds, 2 TDs - WR Jaron Brown

190 yds, 0 TD - WR Ted Ginn

[MechaZain]

I like Ginn but some of ya'll are killing me acting like we should just ignore speedy recievers now. You realize he was on the team before and wasn't Randy Moss, right?

[gettlemanjack]

Former #7 overall pick WR Curtis Conway of Southern Cal (who caught for over 8,000 yards in the NFL):

NFL.com:

Conway said Dorsett would be a strong fit for the Colts. With Luck's powerful arm, Conway sees two vertical threats causing major problems for Colts opponents. "You talk about a good fit with with T.Y. (Hilton), can you imagine? Both of these speed demons out there on an island? You can't put a safety in the box to cover the run game, which means that will open up your run game," Conway said. "You get a Phillip Dorsett out there man to man, you're not gong to have a safety in the box. ... I see Phillip Dorsett being a really good piece for that offense." 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000477115/article/three-wrs-colts-should-target-in-draft-to-replace-reggie-wayne

[Mol3m4n]

Former #7 overall pick WR Curtis Conway of Southern Cal (who caught for over 8,000 yards in the NFL):

NFL.com:

Conway said Dorsett would be a strong fit for the Colts. With Luck's powerful arm, Conway sees two vertical threats causing major problems for Colts opponents. "You talk about a good fit with with T.Y. (Hilton), can you imagine? Both of these speed demons out there on an island? You can't put a safety in the box to cover the run game, which means that will open up your run game," Conway said. "You get a Phillip Dorsett out there man to man, you're not gong to have a safety in the box. ... I see Phillip Dorsett being a really good piece for that offense."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000477115/article/three-wrs-colts-should-target-in-draft-to-replace-reggie-wayne

Haven't you heard? The Colts are the perfect destination for every free agent and draft pick.

[LUUUUUKE]

Excellent post by Woodie, and for it he gets pie and best answer. Congrats Woodie, on winning teh interwebs today!

He's my pick at 25, although I like Perriman better because of his size. I don't think Perriman is there though, and sadly on draft day I think Dorsett is gone by 25, which gives our FO a reprieve from making that tough choice. Sadly, I think we go OT, which is needed, but not flashy.

Let's be honest, that's the safe status quo pick. IMO, picking Dorsett would be bold, yet no one could argue it. He fills a desperate hole that will have this O clicking for a very very long time.

Really looking fwd to Day 1 of the draft this year. I foresee some trades and some surprises.

#CantWait

[Ivan The Awesome]

I wouldn't mind Dorsett in the second round. The idea of him going in the first though..

[DaCityKats]

will place this little nugget here. this is huge for Dorsett.

 

 

Miami WR Phillip Dorsett only dropped one pass on 37 catchable targets, according to Pro Football Focus.

Dorsett was targeted 67 times, but only 37 were truly catchable. There is some subjectivity here and in these cases, charters tend to side with the receivers. Regardless, this is an outstanding number for the speedy receiver. It rivals Jarvis Landry's drop rate from last year. Dorsett could be selected in the second round.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/cfb/nfl-draft

[Mol3m4n]

will place this little nugget here. this is huge for Dorsett.

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/cfb/nfl-draft

Do want.