Charles casserly on cam newton

[tiger7_88]

I swear that our fanbase is the biggest bunch of sensitive pansies out there.

You guys scour the internet to try and find where someone is dissing your QB.

Get over it.

The opinion of a primary contributor to the NFL Network and nfl.com is now "scouring the internet".

Congrats to you on your Strawman For The Ages, brah. Well done indeed.

[TheMaulClaw]

I'm not exactly sure how Casserly has made such a career for himself in FO's and on NFL Network.  He's out of touch and doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time.  Every NFL gm job he's had....he's lost.  We'd be wise to breathe a sigh of relief when he talks ill about us.

[CelticCat]

Yeah, when I watched that live my gob almost hit the floor. It wasn't so much the Jameis thing but the Stafford Bradford deal. I get it in that Stafford and Bradford were considered more definite #1 overall picks at the time but that isn't what he said.

 

Just remember to take the opinion of a guy that picked both Heath Shuler and David Carr to be his franchise QB's with a grain of salt.

[mcdougal]

Are you talking about Duke Lacrosse or FSU football?  Secondly,  are you pretending to know the facts or are you going on what you read in the paper?  

 I expected humility from that turd because he is a royal dick-physically, verbally, etc.  Do you think the real Winston is the one behind the mic after his pro day or the one standing on furniture in the student union screaming jokes about objectifying women?  Let me help you with that--the latter.  That is why I expected humility.  He should be embarrassed because he has been a turd.  Instead, arrogant, cocky, and smiling-- Because he repeatedly let his university down and degrades women.  No court is necessary to convince me of that.  When he screws up during his rookie season, I will ask you to revisit this exchange.  Suing someone is not defamation.  But publicly calling someone "nasty, vile, disgusting names" can be.  So if you want to link Duke and Fla State, go ahead.  They are pretty unrelated.  I am--as you are--allowed to have an opinion that is based on what I see in his character-don't need a court, lawyer, or you to help me there.

 

When I stated "members of the team" I am referring to Duke. When I mentioned having their names being drug through the mud, I was referring to Duke. And I am familiar with both cases, Duke and Winston (not FSU football), as both happened to involve schools that I attended. 

 

To be clear, you think that the members of the Duke Lacrosse team who were accused of rape should show some humility. To be clear, you think that those Duke Lacrosse players who hurled racial slurs, sexist slurs, and threw out their accuser into the street should show some humility correct?

 

And you need to stop while you are ahead. Notions of Winston "degrades women" or should be embarrassed or has let FSU down is well...embarrassing for the person proclaiming such beliefs--not Winston.

 

And you either fundamentally lack reading comprehension skills or have a severe lack of information concerning Winston's case. The accuser never sued Winston. She sued FSU probably because her investors can't even get over the most elementary of legal standards in order to win an actual lawsuit against Winston. Instead she claims that FSU is fostering a "hostile" educational atmosphere for their female students.

 

This claim is so meritless that FSU is not even waiting to get out via Summary Judgment but opting for a Motion for Dismissal. LOL! 

 

And once again, you have a severe lack of information or you are intentionally misrepresenting the facts concerning Winston. Winston never stood on any furniture and screamed any jokes. What did do was as he was walking down the steps, outside the Student Union, yell a popular internet meme that most TWENTY YEAR OLDS have repeated.

 

Just stop. You might be worst than Peter King and his attempt at character assassination of Newton not 5 years ago.  

 

Accusing someone in the manner in which Erica has Newton and FSU is ripe for a FL litigation attorney to pursue a compliant against her. Only sorry that I am not licensed in Florida or have standing or I would sue her myself. 

 

And once again, I presume that you hold (moronically) members of the Duke Lacrosse team accused of rape to the same standards, correct?

[PiratePanther189]

Seeing as Jameis is a pro style pocket passer, I can only see one common denominator here...

 

You sadly and unfortunately got it my friend. Cam was that first larger than life, superstar, polarizing black quarterback picked No. 1 overall with a past that came out and showed everyone that they can take their stereotypes and shove them because he's not the smug thug that everyone wants him to be, he's a clean cut leader of a sucessful foundation and a franchise QB.

 

Because of Cam, people now can have that small belief that Jameis can clean his sh*t up too.

 

[TheWiz]

I really thought he was dead.

 

this is good news.

[mc52beast]

He may be a little.better at reading defenses than Cam was coming out of college but as far as physical skills he's.nowhere close.

[Wundrbread33]

He was obviously talking about coming out of college, Cam was a huge question mark coming from the system he played in

Bradford was the most highly rated QB since Peyton.

 

Was he? I saw Bradford as the typical "reach for a QB" 1st overall pick who's talent equated to late 1st-2nd round. He did everything solid but nothing was great. Above average arm, good accuracy, average mobility, good decision making: Just solid but unspectacular.

 

I really don't care what the experts said either; they hyped Blaine Gabbert as well. They always hype QB's. They always buy into the hopes for teams to find the next great QB in the draft.

 

Nothing about Bradford screamed "unique talent" to me.

[GoobyPls]

Was he? I saw Bradford as the typical "reach for a QB" 1st overall pick who's talent equated to late 1st-2nd round. He did everything solid but nothing was great. Above average arm, good accuracy, average mobility, good decision making: Just solid but unspectacular.

I really don't care what the experts said either; they hyped Blaine Gabbert as well. They always hype QB's. They always buy into the hopes for teams to find the next great QB in the draft.

Nothing about Bradford screamed "unique talent" to me.

Yeah he was, if he would came out his junior year he would have been picked ahead Stafford injury and all.

It's not an exaggeration when I say this but Bradford was the best pure passer in CFB history. His accuracy was insane.

[blackcat]

Charles Cassely from the Golf Channel? WTF does he have to do with basketball? fug!

[Wundrbread33]

Yeah he was, if he would came out his junior year he would have been picked ahead Stafford injury and all.

It's not an exaggeration when I say this but Bradford was the best pure passer in CFB history. His accuracy was insane.

 

Every Oklahoma QB put up ridiculous numbers though. I'm a Mizzou fan so I had plenty of chances to see him play...numbers aside, the dude never wowed me. 

 

If I'm taking a guy #1, he is going to blow my mind with either one of a kind intangibles or off the charts physical traits.

 

Bradford didn't have either. He was just a good quarterback with a clean cut image that fit an Oklahoma system perfectly. 

 

Safe pick. Good yet not elite ceiling, high floor. Low bust potential...unless he caught the injury bug.

 

I just don't see how anyone could look at him and think he could be a top 3 QB in the league at any point in his career.

 

With Luck...I get it. Dude is the complete package.

 

With Cam...I get it. Dude has the best physical tools potentially ever.

 

But Sam Bradford? Doesn't have any characteristic that says "Pick me #1".

[Wundrbread33]

Now Stafford...even though he needs to make more big plays in key moments, there is no questioning his physical talents. 

 

He has an absolute cannon...if he puts it all together, he will be elite.

 

But then again...Jeff George had a cannon too.

[DamnItJake!]

charles casserly is the white mans version of charles barkley pure crap out of the mouth..if anyone is right its a miracl..rrr

[GoobyPls]

Every Oklahoma QB put up ridiculous numbers though. I'm a Mizzou fan so I had plenty of chances to see him play...numbers aside, the dude never wowed me. 

 

If I'm taking a guy #1, he is going to blow my mind with either one of a kind intangibles or off the charts physical traits.

 

Bradford didn't have either. He was just a good quarterback with a clean cut image that fit an Oklahoma system perfectly. 

 

Safe pick. Good yet not elite ceiling, high floor. Low bust potential...unless he caught the injury bug.

 

I just don't see how anyone could look at him and think he could be a top 3 QB in the league at any point in his career.

 

With Luck...I get it. Dude is the complete package.

 

With Cam...I get it. Dude has the best physical tools potentially ever.

 

But Sam Bradford? Doesn't have any characteristic that says "Pick me #1".

Not at the rate he was putting up, he broke the record for most TD by a true freshman. He followed that season up by breaking the record for most passing TD in a major program. He also had the highest passing efficiency in CFB history. And OU played a hybrid spread which included a lot of pro style looks while Bradford was there.

 

He also had pretty mediocre weapons while he was at OU, outside of Gresham who was a TE I can't remember any.

 

He carried that team to a NC, his accuracy was the best I've seen for a college QB and his arm was good enough