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Why drafting a RB or defense won't solve our issues.

GoobyPls

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Mol3m4n Mentor

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They drafted Cam number 1 cause of need, they weren't going to let Cam reach his potential for some other team. Clausen showed nothing his rookie seasons so they had no problem with drafting Cam.

Every thing you mentioned is typical protocol for every draft prospect we really want.

Congratulations!

You just won the "dumbest post on the huddle" award! There was a lot of competition, too.

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FootballMaestro Newbie

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They drafted Cam number 1 cause of need, they weren't going to let Cam reach his potential for some other team. Clausen showed nothing his rookie seasons so they had no problem with drafting Cam.

Every thing you mentioned is typical protocol for every draft prospect we really want.

 

Yeah, but it was those very faux concerns regarding Newton that would have held back him being drafted so high, especially as the overall number one pick.

 

If any of that stuff the TV analyst and media were constantly reporting during the process (leading to your initial post on this) were true, Newton would have never been drafted #1. So it does matter.

 

And I also disagree a bit as well with your standard protocol statement.

 

Many of the things the Panthers (and the NFL scouting service did), were to answer any questions about Newton, such as the Buc's allegedly following Jameis Winston now. Teams don't follow every player or go to certain lengths BTW. Remember, the Browns Claim they didn't know Manziel was such a party guy. LOL.

 

As I said: I think this is more about you. No one can read any/NFL scouting service/legitimate scouting analysis on Newton (which I did), and the Panther comments, and walk away thinking he was just chosen to replace Clausen.

 

No, they loved Cam, and was hoping he'd be their leader, bringing them a championship. Remember, I'm not talking about what the fake TV "Draft Experts", analyst and commenters.

 

In addition, Rivera talked a lot about his teammates in high school and college following Newton. So they liked the fact he was a natural leader, amongst other things (including his physical traits).

 

Nonetheless, to each his own.

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I believe it was John Lynch or one of those fox broadcasters who said it best last year, when we are forced into passing situations and the opposing defense knows we need to pass it our offense becomes completely incompetent.

 

Don't quote me one this but when a team gets a two TD lead on us I believe our record is like 1-20, so either we need to have the lead or we're screwed.

 

If it was up to me I would draft receiver, o-line, receiver with the first 3 picks, get Cam's so weapons to see if can become an elite passer. Cause as it stands right now the receiving corp is still among the worst in the NFL and we don't what we are getting Oher and Martin.

 

The Panthers have been in 17 games where they have trailed by 14 points or more in the Ron Rivera era. They came back to win 1 of those games. So, it does not matter who you put on the field with the Panthers coaches. They are not getting out of that hole with their philosophy and game plan.

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I would tend to agree.

Just saying a baller RB can help too.

Look, I understand it's easy to get excited over gurley and I can see his appeal. And if we draft him, I'll still very much look forward to what he can offer. The idea of a runningback capable of giving this offense 1500 yards a year brings a nice carbonated fizzy feeling to my jollies. However, it's a lofty fantasy.

Runningbacks are churned up and spit out of the league faster than any other position. It's been well documented. And if our first round picks were a little more expendable with a certain philosophy then I can get on board beforehand. But because of our current cap situation, and Hurney's refusal to bring in decent free agents, our first round picks have become our biggest acquisition in any given year.

We need guys that can come in and anchor positions like Gross did for over a decade, and that just isn't going to happen at a position like RB. You can realistically expect that from WR, QB, perhaps even DT. But definitely not RB. It's going to hurt us 3 years or so down the road when he peaks. If we're going to play our one ace card we get every year, I'd rather spend it on a player that can last longer. I use the comparison to Strong because, while he isn't an elite prospect compared to Gurley, he sure as hell will stay productive for many more years, assuming he pans out.

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The Panthers have been in 17 games where they have trailed by 14 points or more in the Ron Rivera era. They came back to win 1 of those games. So, it does not matter who you put on the field with the Panthers coaches. They are not getting out of that hole with their philosophy and game plan.

The coaches haven't had much to work in the offensive side of football either.

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That's just a flat out lie, go find me a top 100 board from 2011 no one had Cam as there number 1 ranked player

Let me not even bring up what most panthers fans thought about Cam at the time, cause everyone is going to come out looking like Hypocrites

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– Last week in San Antonio at least six different teams said they rank Auburn quarterback Cam Newton as the number one prospect in the draft. The opinions were comprised from scouts, personnel directors and a few coaches. All had Newton rated clearly higher than Da’Quan Bowers, Nick Fairley, Marcel Dareus and competing signal caller Blaine Gabbert. We hear the Miami Dolphins have been inquiring heavily into Newton at this stage of the game.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=4627

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– Last week in San Antonio at least six different teams said they rank Auburn quarterback Cam Newton as the number one prospect in the draft. The opinions were comprised from scouts, personnel directors and a few coaches. All had Newton rated clearly higher than Da’Quan Bowers, Nick Fairley, Marcel Dareus and competing signal caller Blaine Gabbert. We hear the Miami Dolphins have been inquiring heavily into Newton at this stage of the game.

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=4627

I just googled top 100 of 2011 not one had Cam number 1

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e75a7b/article/on-ability-alone-these-are-top-prospects-of-2011-nfl-draft

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Does anyone else notice that teams that "pass to set up the run" typically are pretty good when weather is warm or in a dome, but teams that are more run oriented have more playoff success?

New England and Tom Brady have won only one Super Bowl since they have become a more pass oriented team.

Manning has one super bowl

Brees has one

Rodgers has one

Run oriented good defense teams seem to have more variance of making the playoff, but seem to have more success when in the playoffs

Like Pittsburgh

Like Baltimore

Like Seattle

Like San Fran

Like NY Giants

My feeling is that pass first offenses are built for September/October/November but run heavy offenses and good defenses are built for December and January.

Just my observation

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Does anyone else notice that teams that "pass to set up the run" typically are pretty good when weather is warm or in a dome, but teams that are more run oriented have more playoff success?

New England and Tom Brady have won only one Super Bowl since they have become a more pass oriented team.

Manning has one super bowl

Brees has one

Rodgers has one

Run oriented good defense teams seem to have more variance of making the playoff, but seem to have more success when in the playoffs

Like Pittsburgh

Like Baltimore

Like Seattle

Like San Fran

Like NY Giants

My feeling is that pass first offenses are built for September/October/November but run heavy offenses and good defenses are built for December and January.

Just my observation

LMAO what a load of BS

Year in and year out the most successful offenses and teams are usually pass first.

Flacco carried that ravens team.

SF hasn't won anything.

The Giants actually pass it more in the post season.

The NFL is changing, but apparently we aren't. And what's ironic about this is that we have a QB in Cam if given decent weapons can easily run a pass first offense.

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