Strickland gives synopsis on Gman at NFL Annual Meeting, and some of my thoughts

[top dawg]

I think if you are very disappointed in free agency this year it has been because your expectations have been unreasonable not that Gettleman hasnt done what he said he was going to do.  The only thing you can be upset about is that Jennings and Ball left without signing. And who is to say they wont still sign?  Free agency has really got multiple layers to it and we aren't through the first one yet. There are still multiple receivers out there like Crabtree for example who are getting little attention and are supposedly waiting for the right deal like Jennings.  Then after the draft there will be another blood letting and again during training camp.

 

FWIW. I dont think Jennings is worth a big contract.  At 32 he isnt a vertical threat anymore but rather another possession receiver who really isnt going to do that much for us that getting a first or second rounder in the draft wont do.  We have already shown that we can develop rookies into good performers as we did with Benjamin and to a lesser degree Brown when he is healthy.

 

The biggest areas of need were left tackle and returner and we covered that.  Sure there are other areas we need for depth but we dont have all the holes we had last year with the development of all our rookies during 2014.  So if you are disappointed it isn't Gettleman's fault so much as your own for expecting us to just change our philosophy from building through the draft and finding decent affordable guys in free agency.  A philosophy that we have been using even before Gettleman got here.  Dave is just better with the draft than Hurney was after the first round. 

 

So I guess that spending 3 million per year on Stevie Johnson for example was just an unreasonable expectation.  I suppose that signing a very fast TE with good hands like Rob Housler who will probably come cheap for example is an unreasonable expectation.  

 

I am not crazy in thinking that Gettleman could have wording things differently in such a way that bloggers, reporters and writers would have not been carried away with fiscally responsible possibilities, nor am I off base in thinking that we could have done these things and still stuck to the core principle of building through the draft, and filling out holes in the roster with modest free agent signings who would upgraded the roster. 

[MadHatter]

The fug did I just read?

You read another wall of text whine and bitch session by a fan who thinks he knows more about building a winning nfl team than those who are paid millions to do so and have done this for years.

In other words, you just read the typical offseason post on the huddle.

[top dawg]

People seem to be missing the point of the OP.  It's not even about the moves and draft philosophy per se, but about G-man's wording as far as what he was going to do that led to certain expectations unnecessarily. You can try and make it about draft philosophy and specific people or moves all you like. And it's easy after the fact to say Gman said this and Gman said that, but apparently he wasn't as clear as he could have been to many people. In my estimation, anyone should be able to see that.  You may have understood what he said perfectly, but others did not.

[motocross_cat]

Season starts six months from now. Alot of things can happen in six months. I think we will have plenty to be excited about opening day......

[motocross_cat]

I feel like we are on some news station picking apart everything a political figure says or something.

[PandaPancake]

You read another wall of text whine and bitch session by a fan who thinks he knows more about building a winning nfl team than those who are paid millions to do so and have done this for years.

In other words, you just read the typical offseason post on the huddle.

I'm glad I keep you on retainer

[top dawg]

You read another wall of text whine and bitch session by a fan who thinks he knows more about building a winning nfl team than those who are paid millions to do so and have done this for years.

In other words, you just read the typical offseason post on the huddle.

 

 

And yet another example of missing the point altogether.  And, by the way, i agree with Gettleman's general philosophy about team building even if he doesn't make all the moves that i would like him to.  I am still a Gettleman guy even though i don't have to sniff his jock. 

 

BYW, Hurney was paid millions, as are a lot of GMs who end up washing out of the league, so paying someone millions just doesn't do it for me.

 

I think that Gettleman could have worded things a little differently to keep expectations to a minimum, and I am sticking to my point.

[tiger7_88]

People seem to be missing the point of the OP. It's not even about the moves and draft philosophy per se, but about G-man's wording as far as what he was going to do that led to certain expectations unnecessarily. You can try and make it about draft philosophy and specific people or moves all you like. And it's easy after the fact to say Gman said this and Gman said that, but apparently he wasn't as clear as he could have been to many people. In my estimation, anyone should be able to see that. You may have understood what he said perfectly, but others did not.

Those of us that have observed Dave Gettleman for 2 years and have come to understand (somewhat at least) his team-building philosophy understood his words PERFECTLY and have not been at all disappointed in his off-season moves.

Its not his fault that you took his words and started building fantasy castles in the sky out of them. The responsibility for that lies within your own mind.

[AKPantherFan]

People care way too much in March.

[London Loves Luke]

And yet another example of missing the point altogether.  And, by the way, i agree with Gettleman's general philosophy about team building even if he doesn't make all the moves that i would like him to.  I am still a Gettleman guy even though i don't have to sniff his jock. 

 

BYW, Hurney was paid millions, as are a lot of GMs who end up washing out of the league, so paying someone millions just doesn't do it for me.

 

I think that Gettleman could have worded things a little differently to keep expectations to a minimum, and I am sticking to my point.

 

I'll throw you a bone. Fine, I get that Gettleman hasn't been great with the media during his time here. He's very straight up and sometimes overly open with some thoughts while he's massively closed on others e.g. contracts. I think there are better "press GMs" out there definitely. The Hardy and Steve Smith sagas were difficult for him and could have been handled a little better, but really this means nothing to the product on the field that he's helping to put together. 

 

So do I care that what he says in his press conferences gets extrapolated and mis-interpreted by the media? 

 

Could not give a toss. 

[MadHatter]

People seem to be missing the point of the OP. It's not even about the moves and draft philosophy per se, but about G-man's wording as far as what he was going to do that led to certain expectations unnecessarily. You can try and make it about draft philosophy and specific people or moves all you like. And it's easy after the fact to say Gman said this and Gman said that, but apparently he wasn't as clear as he could have been to many people. In my estimation, anyone should be able to see that. You may have understood what he said perfectly, but others did not.

GMan us basically that VP of Ops for a multi million dollar corporation. He us NOT going to tell the world (including other competing companies) exactly what he us going to do. That is good business and how he should do it.

The fans are like stockholders of a Fortune 500 company. You tell them in your earning releases and press releases what the company's high level strategies are. You do not tell them specifically how you are going to do it from an operations perspective.

[CarolinaCoolin]

The signings we've had so far our what I've expected. Grabbing Jennings is something I didn't think possible so if we do I'll be extremely excited over.

Other then that this team is setup of amazingly for the draft and for the future as a whole.

A lot of people will read the OP was a bitching and crying about Gettleman has a whole instead of his word choice. While I don't agree with being upset at his word choice I understand where you are coming from.

[top dawg]

Those of us that have observed Dave Gettleman for 2 years and have come to understand (somewhat at least) his team-building philosophy understood his words PERFECTLY and have not been at all disappointed in his off-season moves.

Its not his fault that you took his words and started building fantasy castles in the sky out of them. The responsibility for that lies within your own mind.

 

I find it kind of disingenuous of you to say that you understood his words "PERFECTLY".  I guess that you were one of the few that expected Gettleman to sign Michael Oher and were all smiles about it at the time, right?  Please.  It wasn't until after he explained his reasoning that most sane people got on board with the pick.  

 

I don't care if it was in my mind or not, it was also in others' minds as well, and it doesn't have anything to do with having any extra knowledge or understanding of Gettleman either.  

 

But let me give you a cookie for being on a case by case anointing with Dave Gettleman.  That must be marvelous.

[top dawg]

I'll throw you a bone. Fine, I get that Gettleman hasn't been great with the media during his time here. He's very straight up and sometimes overly open with some thoughts while he's massively closed on others e.g. contracts. I think there are better "press GMs" out there definitely. The Hardy and Steve Smith sagas were difficult for him and could have been handled a little better, but really this means nothing to the product on the field that he's helping to put together. 

 

So do I care that what he says in his press conferences gets extrapolated and mis-interpreted by the media? 

 

Could not give a toss. 

 

OK, that's fair.

 

GMan us basically that VP of Ops for a multi million dollar corporation. He us NOT going to tell the world (including other competing companies) exactly what he us going to do. That is good business and how he should do it.

The fans are like stockholders of a Fortune 500 company. You tell them in your earning releases and press releases what the company's high level strategies are. You do not tell them specifically how you are going to do it from an operations perspective.

 

I totally understand your point. I still think he could have been a little more clear without giving away any material trade secrets, but I understand.