Matt Miller's 7 Round Mock Draft with Comp Picks

[uncpanther]

7 round crock is more like it.

[GoobyPls]

I would love Dorsett in Carolina

[top dawg]

No way Dorsett is getting taken there. There are too many players period, much less receivers, who are better.

Reach after reach after reach. Just look at the grades. Unless Miller is just smarter than everyone else, this is a bunch of nonsense.

[CCS]

I would be fine with that. LT and a speedy WR

[heel31ok]

Pretty bad mock

 

its a mockery

[micnificent28]

Extremely unimpressive:

http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/2015-Combine-workout-DJ-Humphries/3d812bb6-c0b4-4dec-b247-f0708f88e2ff

This guy is Morgan Moses all over again. Moses was the guy that everyone seemed to be mocking to the Panthers in the 1st round this time last year. He ended up going in the 3rd. Same overall meh athleticism and meh movement skills as Humphries.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap2000000335413/2014-Combine-workout-Morgan-Moses

Now, compare that to Ja'Wuan James who we were evidently very high on last year. Look at the difference in control, balance, and hip swivel. James is so much more fluid and always looks in control and centered in his movements where as Humphries and Moses look like they're flailing in comparison.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap2000000335302/2014-Combine-workout-Ja-Wuan-James

Well to say Humphries and moses are alike would be a big stretch. From what i understand Humphries is good with movement. Moses is the stiff power blocker while Humphries is more along the lines of having all the tools but lacks functional strength.

[micnificent28]

No way Dorsett is getting taken there. There are too many players period, much less receivers, who are better.

I think we would be lucky to get Dorsett in the second round. A lot of guys have him going in the first. He is the fastest wr in the draft with good ball skills. I see a lot of comparisons to bradin cooks.

[LinvilleGorge]

Well to say Humphries and moses are alike would be a big stretch. From what i understand Humphries is good with movement. Moses is the stiff power blocker while Humphries is more along the lines of having all the tools but lacks functional strength.

 

I posted the video right there for you.  Don't go off of "what you understand", just watch the videos.  IMO, Humphries and Moses move very similarly.

[SOJA]

not a fan of pick one and two because I feel like they have too much bust potential

[janderson20vt]

Panthers not interested in Humphries in round 1.

Yeah I'm sure you have some real insider information like you did on Richardson's lack of input on Hardy's release.

[top dawg]

 

I am not trying to be contrary because I am sure there are probably are some guys that have Dorsett being mocked in the first, just not the guys that I listen to.  To be sure, scouting is not an exact science, that's why some people skip through the cracks as underrated, and others turn out to be busts.  Even the best scouts sometimes whiff on players, but that's just the nature of the game. 

 

All that being said, I have started paying a little closer attention to what some guys say and more importantly the reasons why they say it. Although I look at probably more sources than I should, and a sense of Helter-Skelter and pulling out my hair, I have really tried to keep my sources on scouting at a minimum.  Unfortunately as fans we will never know what most scouts are saying too much because they keep things on the down low and only come to us as "anonymous".  The guys I do seriously listen to are Greg Cosell, Gil Brandt, Mike Mayock and Bucky Brooks.  I also take what a few scouting services have to say, most notably Optimum Scouting and Ourlads. But again, no one's mouth is necessarily a prayer book. 

 

From what I've seen of Dorsett's scouting reports, he is small, route-limited, has suspect hands, and is not a good blocker.  I just have to raise my eye at anyone who has him going in the first round.  His speed, explosion off the line and ability to play special teams may get him drafted in the second, but this kid is not Brandin Cooks.  Cooks ran (runs) more of the route tree, has better hands, and more notably can stop on a dime and change direction like a video game character as more than one scout basically put it. Dorsett just doesn't sound like a guy that Gettleman would draft in the second round, much less the first one to me, especially not when there may be other receivers like Agholor, Coates and Perriman still on the board, not to mention players at other positions.  I think that he'd wait and possibly take him later, but then there may be even a player like Ty Montgomery whom G-man may like better. 

[Mol3m4n]

I am not trying to be contrary because I am sure there are probably are some guys that have Dorsett being mocked in the first, just not the guys that I listen to. To be sure, scouting is not an exact science, that's why some people skip through the cracks as underrated, and others turn out to be busts. Even the best scouts sometimes whiff on players, but that's just the nature of the game.

All that being said, I have started paying a little closer attention to what some guys say and more importantly the reasons why they say it. Although I look at probably more sources than I should, and a sense of Helter-Skelter and pulling out my hair, I have really tried to keep my sources on scouting at a minimum. Unfortunately as fans we will never know what most scouts are saying too much because they keep things on the down low and only come to us as "anonymous". The guys I do seriously listen to are Greg Cosell, Gil Brandt, Mike Mayock and Bucky Brooks. I also take what a few scouting services have to say, most notably Optimum Scouting and Ourlads. But again, no one's mouth is necessarily a prayer book.

From what I've seen of Dorsett's scouting reports, he is small, route-limited, has suspect hands, and is not a good blocker. I just have to raise my eye at anyone who has him going in the first round. His speed, explosion off the line and ability to play special teams may get him drafted in the second, but this kid is not Brandin Cooks. Cooks ran (runs) more of the route tree, has better hands, and more notably can stop on a dime and change direction like a video game character as more than one scout basically put it. Dorsett just doesn't sound like a guy that Gettleman would draft in the second round, much less the first one to me, especially not when there may be other receivers like Agholor, Coates and Perriman still on the board, not to mention players at other positions. I think that he'd wait and possibly take him later, but then there may be even a player like Ty Montgomery whom G-man may like better.

Gil Brandt is very smart when it comes to the draft. Hell, he pretty much invented the current draft system.

[GoobyPls]

I am not trying to be contrary because I am sure there are probably are some guys that have Dorsett being mocked in the first, just not the guys that I listen to.  To be sure, scouting is not an exact science, that's why some people skip through the cracks as underrated, and others turn out to be busts.  Even the best scouts sometimes whiff on players, but that's just the nature of the game. 

 

All that being said, I have started paying a little closer attention to what some guys say and more importantly the reasons why they say it. Although I look at probably more sources than I should, and a sense of Helter-Skelter and pulling out my hair, I have really tried to keep my sources on scouting at a minimum.  Unfortunately as fans we will never know what most scouts are saying too much because they keep things on the down low and only come to us as "anonymous".  The guys I do seriously listen to are Greg Cosell, Gil Brandt, Mike Mayock and Bucky Brooks.  I also take what a few scouting services have to say, most notably Optimum Scouting and Ourlads. But again, no one's mouth is necessarily a prayer book. 

 

From what I've seen of Dorsett's scouting reports, he is small, route-limited, has suspect hands, and is not a good blocker.  I just have to raise my eye at anyone who has him going in the first round.  His speed, explosion off the line and ability to play special teams may get him drafted in the second, but this kid is not Brandin Cooks.  Cooks ran (runs) more of the route tree, has better hands, and more notably can stop on a dime and change direction like a video game character as more than one scout basically put it. Dorsett just doesn't sound like a guy that Gettleman would draft in the second round, much less the first one to me, especially not when there may be other receivers like Agholor, Coates and Perriman still on the board, not to mention players at other positions.  I think that he'd wait and possibly take him later, but then there may be even a player like Ty Montgomery whom G-man may like better. 

 

 

Give me a link to that scouting report

 

His hands improved a lot last season, coming out of a pro style offense his route tree is way ahead of the curve compared with those spread receivers, he's actually a decent and willing blocker for his stature.

 

Cotes, Hardy and Montgomery I can honestly say are no where near as good as Dorsett. If you watched any canes game Dorsett was constantly open, problem was they were breaking in a true freshman QB who was up and down all year.

 

Last year people over looked Allen Hurns who ended up out playing Robinson and Lee, no one is dumb enough to overlook Dorsett this year. He's basically Santana Moss with less wiggle

[LinvilleGorge]

Give me a link to that scouting report

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/phillip-dorsett?id=2552424

Weaknesses

Had partial tear of MCL in 2013. Still raw in his routes, relying on pure speed. Inconsistent with his hand placement to catch and lets the ball get on top of him. Small frame and will have to withstand hits over the middle as a slot receiver