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[FootballMaestro]

We lost 4 games in 2013.  One the Saints blew us out, and one the Cards blew us out.  So two late game leads blown against Seattle and Buffalo.

 

In 2014, we were blown out of the water in 6 games.  Seattle and Atlanta were our late game blown leads.  Again, two late game leads blown.

 

4 late game leads blown, out of 32 games played = numerous?

 

The point/take away is: Even the years Rivera's defense was supposed to be good or great the Panthers blew leads in incredulous fashion (mind you the blow outs you noted, making it even worse). When's the last time you seen Seattle blow leads in Panther fashion? This is one of the reasons other QB's had more game winning drives than Newton up until recently. He would get the leads, just to see the defense blow them again. Meanwhile more mediocre ranked defenses would hold their late game leads for their QB to get the 4th Qtr QB victory stat.

 

Just think about all incredulous wins the likes of EJ Manuel, Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, etc., pulled out against the Panthers looking at almost certain defeat.

[t96]

When's the last time you seen Seattle blow leads in Panther fashion?

 

Did you not watch the Super Bowl?

[FootballMaestro]

Did you not watch the Super Bowl?

 

OK.

 

One in the SUPERBOWL vs Tom Brady (in how many years), after winning the Superbowl the previous year.

 

I would take any of those scenarios under Rivera in a heartbeat, compared to what we seen so far with the Panthers/Rivera.

[Nick_81]

The point/take away is: Even the years Rivera's defense was supposed to be good or great the Panthers blew leads in incredulous fashion (mind you the blow outs you noted, making it even worse). When's the last time you seen Seattle blow leads in Panther fashion? This is one of the reasons other QB's had more game winning drives than Newton up until recently. He would get the leads, just to see the defense blow them again. Meanwhile more mediocre ranked defenses would hold their late game leads for their QB to get the 4th Qtr QB victory stat.

 

Just think about all incredulous wins the likes of EJ Manuel, Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, etc., pulled out against the Panthers looking at almost certain defeat.

That's cool and all, but why exactly is Rivera getting all the blame for blown defenses?  I mean, I can completely understand blaming him for the clock management issues.  I can understand blaming him for "playing it safe" when we have the lead, offensively speaking, because he's admitted those are his calls.  However, the defense getting blown up, or letting late game leads slip away, I really can't blame him for those.  McDermott is the DC, not Rivera.  Yes, Rivera was/is a great defensive mind, but he doesn't run the defense.  He's said that numerous times. Why does McDermott get a pass in all of this?  We're all so quick to poo on Shula, but McDermott is untouchable?  Why is he even employed?

 

Please, correct me if I'm just completely off track.

[t96]

OK.

One in the SUPERBOWL vs Tom Brady (in how many years), after winning the Superbowl the previous year.

I would take any of those scenarios under Rivera in a heartbeat, compared to what we seen so far with the Panthers/Rivera.

-Vs. Kansas City with Alex Smith

-Vs. San Diego with Philip Rivers

-Vs. Dallas with Tony Romo

That's 4 this past season alone. Great research you've done bud.

[FootballMaestro]

-Vs. Kansas City with Alex Smith

-Vs. San Diego with Philip Rivers

-Vs. Dallas with Tony Romo

That's 4 this past season alone. Great research you've done bud.

 

Hmmh.

 

And since you have so much time on your hands/such a good researcher, why don't you compare the amount of late game blown leads by Rivera since he's been in the NFL compared to Pete Carrol?

 

Please do that for us. Yes, Seattle was mediocre for a large part of 2014, ironically (though not  surprising) getting better against the Panthers.

 

None of this takes away from the fact, regardless of where Rivera's defense was ranked, they blew leads in incredulous fashions (were the Seattle ones you posted like any of the Panthers ones with Josh Freeman, EJ Manuel, Matt Ryan, etc., by the way)?

 

So yes,  even regarding defense-Rivera's strong suit--he's been at the least up and down with that element. When you combine this with his poor TO, situational game management, coach management, and lax talent evaluation, Rivera was lucky he came out with a 17 ranking in many folks opinion. 

 

Let's not be pedantic here.

 

[t96]

Hmmh.

And since you have so much time on your hands/such a good researcher, why don't you compare the amount of late game blown leads by Rivera since he's been in the NFL compared to Pete Carrol?

Please do that for us. Yes, Seattle was mediocre for a large part of 2014, ironically (though not surprising) getting better against the Panthers.

None of this takes away from the fact, regardless of where Rivera's defense was ranked, they blew leads in incredulous fashions (were the Seattle ones you posted like any of the Panthers ones with Josh Freeman, EJ Manuel, Matt Ryan, etc., by the way)?

So yes, even regarding defense-Rivera's strong suit--he's been at the least up and down with that element. When you combine this with his poor TO, situational game management, coach management, and lax talent evaluation, Rivera was lucky he came out with a 17 ranking in many folks opinion.

Let's not be pedantic here.

Enjoy your way of thinking.

[Fox007]

Norman in the Buffalo game that one year. 

 

Why do we always lose to some shitty Buffalo and Vikings...hell remember Gamble and his STs bullshit play? Then last year STs literally shat the field....

[FootballMaestro]

What happened to your Research now? SMH/LOL

 

Did you even understand what "incredulous fashion" meant?

 

So you're saying Seattle has blown more leads with less than, about 1 min or so left? A team marching largely up the field with no time outs (even throw in some undistinguished QB's such as Manuel and Freeman), and lost or attained a tie the way Rivera has since he's been here? I can't think of many good coaches, especially defensive ones who have blown super late game leads on a consistent basis the way Rivera has. That was the key take away. Not futile/petty semantics, or attempts at nit picking for ones own disposition.

 

Enjoy your way of thinking indeed.

 

 

I gotta get some work done now, thank you.

[t96]

What happened to your Research now? SMH/LOL

I don't like to waste my time arguing with retards.

[TheRed]

You can argue all day about where he ranks amongst current head coaches. Really doesn't matter.

 

I like him, I want him to succeed here. I think he is a really good coach, problem is, he may not be a really good "head coach".

 

He cannot play the "I made a mistake, but I've learned from it, I promise guys" card anymore, because he's done just about all of it and supposedly learned from it more than once already in the past 4 seasons. That bullshit is just not going to fly in 2015.

[Cookie Lyon]

You can argue all day about where he ranks amongst current head coaches. Really doesn't matter.

 

I like him, I want him to succeed here. I think he is a really good coach, problem is, he may not be a really good "head coach".

 

He cannot play the "I made a mistake, but I've learned from it, I promise guys" card anymore, because he's done just about all of it and supposedly learned from it more than once already in the past 4 seasons. That bullshit is just not going to fly in 2015.

 

I agree with you. Rivera has been making huge mistakes ever since he's been here. He's not going to change, sadly.

[Panthers8969]

Huh?

Did you read or really think about what I wrote?

The Panthers blew numerous late game leads in 2013-during their great defensive year, as well as in 2014

There's never been a year Rivera's been head coach (regardless of how/where the "D" ended up being ranked to end the year) where the defense didn't blow numerous leads in incredulous fashion.

I repeat. Every Season he's been Head Coach!!

And the offense had nothing to do with that? If the offense goes 3 and out over and over its the defenses fault? And please define "numerous" for me.

Yeah, just double checked the 2013 season. Please tell me how the defense blew "numerous late game leads" that year.

[ickmule]

Dumb article and ranking. Too much plays into a coaches success or failure. Ron is our coach.....love him or hate him.