A peek into the Panthers philosophy (re: trades)

[CatMan72]

I don't think Hurney decided to spend that money... I think he was ordered to after many accused his boss of being a cheapskate during the lockout.

[Mr. Scot]

I feel like Hurney wanted to stay true to the philosophy he discussed, he just drafted so poorly past the first round that he was forced to get himself into trouble cap-wise trying to assemble a roster.  In his final years, he was purely grasping at straws and really got us in a bind.

 

Agreed.

 

Other than the willingness to trade away future first rounders, his philosophy wasn't so bad.

 

His execution was awful

 

[Fox007]

But Hurney sure didn't care if he traded his first rounders for 2nd round talent.

 

Such a terrible GM...man if we had GMan for those years where Hurney gave out those stupid contracts who knows how sick this team would be by now...the only bad thing I can forsee in our future is that GMan is already pretty old so it's hard to tell what that'll mean long term...maybe he can develop an heir or hire his own replacement....

 

 

Do we have the oldest GM? I wonder what's the usual age for GMs and up to what age they work.

 

[DanTheMan]

Former Panthers general manager Marty Hurney, now part-owner of a radio station and co-host of a national radio show, agrees.

 

 

 

I can hear it now. So your asking for 200,000 for part owner ship but I'll give you 750,000 even though it's not worth it. That how I negotiate. I'm a Cap Expert Dammit!

[Paintballr]

Seeing the words "Marty Hurney" and "Salary Cap Expert" in the same sentence make me want to put my head through a brick wall.

If you could go back in history on this board to around 2006-2009 he was know as a cap expert and everyone trusted him to figure it out lol

[Paintballr]

He was fired because a bunch of players went into the front office and said they'd quit rather than play for him anymore.

(and to be honest, they weren't really doing that great with him in charge)

I don't think firing Gruden was a mistake.

Hiring Raheem Morris, Greg Schiano and maybe Lovie Smith, on the other hand...

(especially Schiano)

Morris and Schiano totally set them back a few years.

Morris inherited a team really with a up and coming QB (at the time). He had a aging defense but did nothing with the roster.

Schiano reminded me of what Chip is doing but without the results. Tried to bring his college style and game plan to the pros and failed. He ruined Freeman, tried to retool an aging defense and failed, and once again did nothing with the offense. Those two alone pushed the bucs into nothingness, and if they aren't careful, if Lovie does it, the bucs will take a long time to recover

[pantherclaw]

Hurney ended up failing because he missed on to many picks to keep the influx of talent coming in.

He usually (not always) nailed his first round pick, but all to often missed on his second.

I don't think he was a bad GM, just gambled to often ilafter the first round.

[PantherFanOne]

I liked Gruden as a coach. I hated the Bucs and him with them but I always thought he was a good coach. Well at lest I thought he had a good football mind. I don't know about his leadership skills. I guess that's the difference.

 

 

I think that Gruden was good with the X's and O's,he just  seemed to lose the teams respect, as time went on.

[Daeavorn]

I think that Gruden was good with the X's and O's,he just seemed to lose the teams respect, as time went on.

Why is that? What did he do wrong?

[Moorgan]

Why is that? What did he do wrong?

He seemed kind of like a dick. Belittling. People don't generally respond well to that. At least I've seen him that way on QBs. I don't know about other players. I remember seeing tape of him with Sims in practice. Kind of a dick. Maybe that's why.