Stephen Hill

[Mvp2014]

Not really. Bersin wasn't thrown into punt return duty until well after the start of the season. He never returned punts in camp or preseason. 

 

But did he catch a punt? 

[MadHatter]

I agree that Hill as a #2 should not be expected, but he has the perfect skillset to be an NFL WR2:

 

23 years old

6'4"

215 lbs.

4.36 40-time

39.5" vertical

33"+ arm length

$600k salary

 

He came into the league raw and I'm pretty confident that most GMs knew he was a project.  After 2 years in a crappy environment, he came here and has been brought along slowly.  He's had guys like Cotch, Avant and Olsen to help him.  I honestly think Ginn can help him as well.  One speedster to another how to use the physics of his talent to his advantage.

 

The Panthers love players that know a system and I definitely see him getting a shot.  I don't think his presence here keeps the organization from looking for a #2 receiver in FA or the draft, but I also don't think the book has been closed on Hill yet.  

 

What you listed is NOT a skillset....it is a list of physical attributes that a person has. 

 

The skillset of a WR has to do with running routes, learning the system, and actually catching the ball.

[PanthersUnited]

I think Stephen Hill will suprise a lot of people and silent doubters. Let's retrace his career, he was a VERY raw prospect coming out of college and everyone knew this. He goes to the Jets in the 2nd round. Quite possibly the worst landing spot for a raw WR that needs real development and coaching. He had a mess at QB and despite all this he still put up over 500 rec yds and 5 TDs as a rookie with Mark Sanchez.

Give him an entire year an off season with Proehl and a chance for him to learn this offense and he could do great things. The fact he hasn't been cut yet is a good sign. He has the size and speed of Calvin Johnson and Proehl is his WR coach. I think he will suprise a lot of people

[Snake]

If he pans out as a WR4 its a job well done for Ricky.

[CarolinaSock]

For some perspective it was reported David Foucault was kept on the active roster so he wouldn't be snatched from our practice squad. There were no such concerns with Stephen Hill and 31 other teams decided he wasn't worth a roster spot.

[dos poptarts]

If you put his numbers up against the combine numbers of the WRs coming out this year where would he rank? just saying.

 

Yea, but those WRs have proven much more in college than Hill. (and I support Hill as a Panther project) Yes I know GT's offense limited his stats, but it also provided Hill many more big play opportunities. He has never proven to be a go-to receiver.

 

From wiki:

He finished his career with 49 receptions for 1,248 yards and nine touchdowns.

 

Parker - 113 rec, 1920 yds, 28 TDs

DGB - 87 rec, 1278 yds, 17 TDs

Strong - 157 rec, 2287 yds, 17 TDs

 

[pantherclaw]

I'll be pleasantly surprised if Hill even makes the 53 roster.

I won't be holding my breath.

[Soul Rebel]

What you listed is NOT a skillset....it is a list of physical attributes that a person has. 

 

The skillset of a WR has to do with running routes, learning the system, and actually catching the ball.

 

Yessir, you are correct. Wrong choice of wording on my part.  Measurables/attributes would have been the better choice of words. 

[beastson]

All I know is we need speed and the offense need to work on the deep ball more.

[London Loves Luke]

A lot of ya’ll gave LaFell a hard time coming in for drops and just look at the season he just had with Brady (74 rec, 953 yards, 7 TD’s – that’s just a few receptions, 55 yards and 2 TD’s behind KB), Ted Ginn has had drop issues over his career and the majority of you clamored for his return not only to special teams, but also as a receiver. You all doubted his ability but he had a career year (5 TD’s) HERE and nowhere else really. I mean did Cotchery, Brown, and Bersin even combine for that many?

The kid Hill is everything you want in a WR he’s a match-up night-mare, big and fast, and he’s only 23 years old coming from a team that drafted him way to high, and by virtue was forced to play likely before he was ready coming out of a school like Georgia Tech.

However if you look at our roster we don’t have any other receiver outside of Benjamin with more potential. And if any of you think Brown is that guy I’d seriously doubt your talent evaluation skills. Brown doesn’t make most NFL teams, sorry to burst your bubbles. If you trust our GM’s ability to evaluate talent and you all waited three years for Bersin to finally make the team, I say hit back and watch.

If Hill does become a viable number two can you imagine how favorable match-ups would be with KB, Hill, Ginn (circa 2013), and Olsen lined up and Stewart out of the back-field. Adding another receiver talent or two via the draft would have me fairly excited about finally fielding a legit receiving core.

On the one hand you present a pretty compelling argument, on the other hand, Panthersunited thinks Hill could be our next big receiver.

I don't know what to think anymore.

[DaveThePanther2008]

I think the plan was to keep him on the practice squad all season regardless of how well he improved. Give him a season just to learn.

[panthers34]

Hopefully Jaelen Strong can be the number 2

[t96]

I think Stephen Hill will suprise a lot of people and silent doubters. Let's retrace his career, he was a VERY raw prospect coming out of college and everyone knew this. He goes to the Jets in the 2nd round. Quite possibly the worst landing spot for a raw WR that needs real development and coaching. He had a mess at QB and despite all this he still put up over 500 rec yds and 5 TDs as a rookie with Mark Sanchez.

Give him an entire year an off season with Proehl and a chance for him to learn this offense and he could do great things. The fact he hasn't been cut yet is a good sign. He has the size and speed of Calvin Johnson and Proehl is his WR coach. I think he will suprise a lot of people

 

Yes lets retrace the fact that no team in the entire league thought he was worth an active roster spot. That's probably somewhere around 150 WRs that are better than him, including guy like Bersin, according to people who's job it is to evaluate talent. Hill is trash. 

[C47]

I think Stephen Hill will suprise a lot of people and silent doubters. Let's retrace his career, he was a VERY raw prospect coming out of college and everyone knew this. He goes to the Jets in the 2nd round. Quite possibly the worst landing spot for a raw WR that needs real development and coaching. He had a mess at QB and despite all this he still put up over 500 rec yds and 5 TDs as a rookie with Mark Sanchez.

Give him an entire year an off season with Proehl and a chance for him to learn this offense and he could do great things. The fact he hasn't been cut yet is a good sign. He has the size and speed of Calvin Johnson and Proehl is his WR coach. I think he will suprise a lot of people

 

Take off your Electric Blue glasses and read that back. You'll realize how ridiculous it sounds.