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Average Gain from Big FA Spending Sprees? 0 Wins

UNCrules2187

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GoobyPls Mentor

GoobyPls

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Of the teams and player you mentioned none of the teams acquired all of those players in the same offseason...

And jack azz

The hawks TRADED FOR LYNCH.

The ravens TRADED FOR BOLDIN.

 

 

 

 

Trades are basically part of free agency

 

And what does it matter that all of them weren't signed in the same off season? If anything that means those teams are constantly going after FA every off season.

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Yep one move 4 years ago = active

 

Its also makes me wonder why we haven't been more active in the trading block, we got Greg Olsen by a trade why not try another trade?

 

 

What the Panthers had been doing rather than making smart trades or significant moves in Free Agency the last few years is an idiot GM (Marty Hurney ) who first completely took the Panthers off the Free Agent market by Franchise Tagging Julius Peppers for 2 years running to the tune of about 35 million dollars. 

Then handing running backs, DEs, and DBs etc massive contracts that again took the Panthers off the market cap wise. 

Gettleman struggles to this day to shed Panther stupidity from the books.

The Panthers cant be used as an example of smartly staying off the Free Agent or Trade market. Due to incompetence they couldn't even if they wanted to.

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Yep one move 4 years ago = active

 

Its also makes me wonder why we haven't been more active in the trading block, we got Greg Olsen by a trade why not try another trade?

 

Because the GMs that do things for the heck of it simply to win the offseason are the ones that fail in the long run which was the entire point of the article that you obviously didn't read.

 

The teams that are mentioned as SB contenders as a result of offseason moves can make those moves because they have needs at those positions. The Seahawks needed a dynamic red zone threat at receiver and an upgrade to Luke Willson. The Patriots needed a shutdown corner to upgrade their secondary for years which is why they could never get over the hump. They didn't just make those moves out of offseason boredom.

 

Those teams can make those moves because the opportunity to fill those needs came about and they managed their cap effectively enough to have space to complete those moves. What you and all the other "spend at all cost" folks are forgetting is that we are cap challenged because we spent at all costs, as KG has pointed out.^

 

The Panthers primary needs this offseason were speed at WR (Ted Ginn,) a tackle (Michael Oher,) and completely overhauling special teams (Teddy Williams, Ted Ginn, Kurt Coleman, Bruce DeHaven, etc.) If we had the space and the opportunity presented itself (as it did with Greg Olsen years ago) perhaps we would swing a trade or a big signing to combat any of those needs, but the money, etc. just isn't there right now thanks to the mistakes of a GM from which it will take years to recover.

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Yes, some times build through Free Agency and Draft

 

But we are not a team that can currently afford that.

 

And smart teams don't OVERPAY for any free agents. Much like Dolphins, Redskins, And Tampa Bay commonly do.

 

There's a difference. 

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I don't care if we use free agency or trades to HELP us win a championship, just as long as we win one. Both are valid and proven tools to that end.  The trick is determining when to use these tools to supplement your team. Only a fool would say that you always have to take risks and/or pull out your bank roll to build a championship caliber team. Only another fool would say that you always have to keep your hands in your pocket.  Like a good coach, the best GMs are able to develop a game plan and put it into action, but also continually evaluate a situation and adapt to attain and sustain success. 

 

I don't get why so many fail to see that. I guess people want to fool others and/or fool themselves.

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The Panthers primary needs this offseason were speed at WR (Ted Ginn,) a tackle (Michael Oher,) and completely overhauling special teams (Teddy Williams, Ted Ginn, Kurt Coleman, Bruce DeHaven, etc.) If we had the space and the opportunity presented itself (as it did with Greg Olsen years ago) perhaps we would swing a trade or a big signing to combat any of those needs, but the money, etc. just isn't there right now thanks to the mistakes of a GM from which it will take years to recover.

 

Ted Ginn and Michael Oher cannot be trusted at this point to sufficiently fill our needs at their respective positions.  I will be shocked if we don't draft someone at each position to hedge our bets, so to speak.  Indeed, I believe that the primary purpose of signing Ginn was for special teams and to provide depth at wide receiver, not to be our answer for a speedy receiver (in terms of moving further into the playoffs).

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Ted Ginn and Michael Oher cannot be trusted at this point to sufficiently fill our needs at their respective positions.  I will be shocked if we don't draft someone at each position to hedge our bets, so to speak.  Indeed, I believe that the primary purpose of signing Ginn was for special teams and to provide depth at wide receiver, not to be our answer for a speedy receiver (in terms of moving further into the playoffs).

 

Ginn can absolutely be trusted.

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