Saints still in bad shape capwise

[mc52beast]

The Panthers barely won a horrible NFCS last year, the Bucs will draft Winston and will be better this year. The Saints have 5 or 6 picks in the first 78, am assuming they will improve. Anyone who thinks we are going to waltz away with a third straight title are living in a fantasy world.

[panthers55]

The Panthers barely won a horrible NFCS last year, the Bucs will draft Winston and will be better this year. The Saints have 5 or 6 picks in the first 78, am assuming they will improve. Anyone who thinks we are going to waltz away with a third straight title are living in a fantasy world.

While are speculating about what changed lets remember that this year Cam will be healthy and not miss the offseason or camp, hopefully he has no more horrific accidents. The o line is much improved and largely set for the year and all those rookies will have experience in the system and will be experienced.  Add that I would take Gettleman drafting our 7 players over the Saints having 12 or 13 picks based on their history.  Heck we have found better options as UDFAs than they have found in the top 3 or 4 rounds. Look at their last 6 first rounders.

 

2014- Brandin Cooks

2013-kenny Vacaro

2011: Cameron Jordan, Mark Ingram

2010-Patrick Robinson

2009- Malcolm Jenkins 

 

Only 3 of them are still on the team.

 

Compare that to the Panthers where the only one gone is Otah in 2008.

[saints4life25]

While are speculating about what changed lets remember that this year Cam will be healthy and not miss the offseason or camp, hopefully he has no more horrific accidents. The o line is much improved and largely set for the year and all those rookies will have experience in the system and will be experienced. Add that I would take Gettleman drafting our 7 players over the Saints having 12 or 13 picks based on their history. Heck we have found better options as UDFAs than they have found in the top 3 or 4 rounds. Look at their last 6 first rounders.

2014- Brandin Cooks

2013-kenny Vacaro

2011: Cameron Jordan, Mark Ingram

2010-Patrick Robinson

2009- Malcolm Jenkins

Only 3 of them are still on the team.

Compare that to the Panthers where the only one gone is Otah in 2008.

With the changes in the front office, I would hope the drafting improves. We've had a lot of success in the latter rounds and UDFAs, but the top of the draft has really been a disappointment. Last years draft hanging on by a string with Cooks. With Pace leaving and Ireland coming in, this should be the year to see if things improve, with all the draft picks.

Also, it should be noted, the Saints have had the fewest amount of picks in the draft since 2008, and it's by a pretty large margin.

[O-Ther]

With the changes in the front office, I would hope the drafting improves. We've had a lot of success in the latter rounds and UDFAs, but the top of the draft has really been a disappointment. Last years draft hanging on by a string with Cooks. With Pace leaving and Ireland coming in, this should be the year to see if things improve, with all the draft picks.

Also, it should be noted, the Saints have had the fewest amount of picks in the draft since 2008, and it's by a pretty large margin.

 

Saw that, especially on defense. A few I'm not sure about, but know Jordan, Hicks, JJenkins, and Vacarro are draft picks. Lot of free agents on that side, especially secondary.

 

Were more draft picks on offense, but that took a hit with Graham and Stills gone.

 

Looks like the bet is that defense will get better with all those injured players coming back and the offense becoming more balanced between run/pass.

 

[Montsta]

With the changes in the front office, I would hope the drafting improves. We've had a lot of success in the latter rounds and UDFAs, but the top of the draft has really been a disappointment. Last years draft hanging on by a string with Cooks. With Pace leaving and Ireland coming in, this should be the year to see if things improve, with all the draft picks.

Also, it should be noted, the Saints have had the fewest amount of picks in the draft since 2008, and it's by a pretty large margin.

Do you trade them or was there a penalty?

[O-Ther]

Do you trade them or was there a penalty?

 

Bountygate took '12 and '13 2nd rounders. Patriots got the Taint's '12 1st rounder in a trade. Don't know more than that.

[saints4life25]

Do you trade them or was there a penalty?

I know that game, and I'm not playing.

[TheSaint]

While are speculating about what changed lets remember that this year Cam will be healthy and not miss the offseason or camp, hopefully he has no more horrific accidents. The o line is much improved and largely set for the year and all those rookies will have experience in the system and will be experienced. Add that I would take Gettleman drafting our 7 players over the Saints having 12 or 13 picks based on their history. Heck we have found better options as UDFAs than they have found in the top 3 or 4 rounds. Look at their last 6 first rounders.

2014- Brandin Cooks

2013-kenny Vacaro

2011: Cameron Jordan, Mark Ingram

2010-Patrick Robinson

2009- Malcolm Jenkins

Only 3 of them are still on the team.

Compare that to the Panthers where the only one gone is Otah in 2008.

Unless I'm really missing something, Jordan, Ingram, Vacarro, and Cooks are still on the roster....

[Davidson Deac II]

The Panthers barely won a horrible NFCS last year, the Bucs will draft Winston and will be better this year. The Saints have 5 or 6 picks in the first 78, am assuming they will improve. Anyone who thinks we are going to waltz away with a third straight title are living in a fantasy world.

 

The NFL is usually unpredictable, and the NFC south has proven to be more unpredictable than most.  A new coach in Atlanta may give them what they need to improve on the defense.  Winston may or may not be better, but he wont be any worse, and the Saints will be younger.  Who knows what will happen.