Just remember this

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

Detroit beat Indy yesterday. If you ever wanted assurance that the preseason means nothing, there you go:beatdeadhorse5:

[John Fox]

the records mean nothing, but the lack of a d-line and secondary is troubling.

[Gman was right]

They lost because they are missing Ron Meeks. He was the only reason the colts had so much success. Thats because the colts defense always ran to the football before and now they dont.

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

It is a process. Our D-line allowed only 3.2 yds per carry to Ray Rice last night. We got one sack, and their vaunted D got 2, so not too bad in comparison. Put it in perspective, the ferocious Giants D got only one sack last night too.

Our secondary is missing our main free safety, and we simply have to work through the kinks of the new cover 2 scheme. the point is, things are nearly as bad as tarheelfan and others like him, would have you believe. sit back, smoke a cigar and relax till the regular season

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

They lost because they are missing Ron Meeks. He was the only reason the colts had so much success. Thats because the colts defense always ran to the football before and now they dont.

So you really mean to tell me that the Colts lost because they are missing Ron Meeks? So why do you vehemently believe the Panthers are going to be bad this year, now that we are the ones that HAVE Meeks on our team?

[Gman was right]

sarcasm isnt your forte is it?

[Zod]

No, I will not remember this.

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

sarcasm isnt your forte is it?

Logic isn't yours

[CRA]

It is a process. Our D-line allowed only 3.2 yds per carry to Ray Rice last night. We got one sack, and their vaunted D got 2, so not too bad in comparison. Put it in perspective, the ferocious Giants D got only one sack last night too.

Our secondary is missing our main free safety, and we simply have to work through the kinks of the new cover 2 scheme. the point is, things are nearly as bad as tarheelfan and others like him, would have you believe. sit back, smoke a cigar and relax till the regular season

The Ravens simply attacked us to in the air. They didn't make an effort to run it into our weakness early. Flacco threw for 200 yards in the 1st half. We didn't force them to pass.....that was not what occured like you are implying. If they wanted they could have put in McClain and ran right inbetween the tackles all night. They know they can run and worked on the pass last night.

So now missing Charles "I'm a huge liability" Godfrey is going to be used as an excuse for why the defense will be bad?

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

I'm not saying anything about having a bad defense, nowhere did I say we will be bad on defense. I'm explaining that TD to Todd Heap was all on Teal we had a free safety in there that wasn't doing much to help our coverage.

All preseason our weakness had been stopping the run which we worked on and improved on, and now we have a free safety starting his first game, and you don't think they would attack through the air?? Do you think that was coincidence? Gamble played horribly, but I think if you watch the game again, you'll see that Teal was responsible for a lot of big plays on us.

[CRA]

I'm not saying anything about having a bad defense, nowhere did I say we will be bad on defense. I'm explaining that TD to Todd Heap was all on Teal we had a free safety in there that wasn't doing much to help our coverage.

All preseason our weakness had been stopping the run which we worked on and improved on, and now we have a free safety starting his first game, and you don't think they would attack through the air?? Do you think that was coincidence? Gamble played horribly, but I think if you watch the game again, you'll see that Teal was responsible for a lot of big plays on us.

Not as many as Gamble or Godfrey has given up prior.

[koolkatluke]

Indy has looked good in atlest 1 preseason game. Just saying we haven't.

[bigdog10]

While the "it's only pre-season" saying has some merit to it...It can't totally be denied how inept our first team defense is, as well as the same troubling sites that we have sat through with trgovac...i.e. 10 yards off a receiver on 3rd and 9. I haven't over-reacted due to our pre-season performance, but it is troubling to say the least.

[1789Cardiac Cats9020]

Before you denounce our defense, here's some food for thought:

We are ranked 16th against the pass in the preseason: ahead of stalwarts like Tennessee and New England

We are ranked 26th against the run: It looks bad, but when you consider the Pats are below us, and the Giants are 24th, then you realize, none of this means a damn thing....that is unless you think the Giants will field a horrible running defense this season and the Saints will field the best in the league. However, to put it in greater perspective, take into account the following statistics from last year's preseason

Run defense: Tennessee ranked 26th (they ended up in the top 5 for the regular season. The Ravens ranked 23rd, (They were in the top 3 for the regular season)

Passing Defense: ST. Louis Rams were #1 last year in the preseason. (They finished 19th in the regular season) The Chiefs were fifth last year in passing defense in the preseason...they finished 28th in the regular season.

The point is, there is no correlation between preseason and a team's performance in any area of the game.