The Panthers absolutely need to give Jake Long an offer

[PhillyB]

Every player in the NFL has question marks, honestly. It's very rare that you're like "Ah, finally, the perfect player."

 

I know most people will bring up Luke but I happen to know he enjoys the type of porn with men "drowning" anime figurines.

 

adding this to my queue of things to google after i get off work tonight

[MadHatter]

It is low risk if we can get him cheap.

 

I doubt we could get him cheap though. 

 

Exactly.

 

Why do so many people think that we can sign guys on cheap deals and with little to no guaranteed money.

 

Living in a fantasy land must be a hell of a ride for many on this board.

[MadHatter]

My biggest thing about this is, we trusted Gettlemen last year.  Where did that get us?  We were stuck with a wasted 13 million dollars in cap space, and two OTs that couldn't block traffic.  This year our OT situation hasn't improve much.  What I really fear is having Olsen in on max protection, and we never using his skills to it's max potential.  We got lucky last year as far as making it to the playoffs.  So my thing is let's cut the games and bring in a proven OT.  Yeah, he's been injured, but we are desperate if you ask me.  

 

It got us a division championship, playoffs, and playoff win.

[csx]

My biggest thing about this is, we trusted Gettlemen last year.  Where did that get us?  We were stuck with a wasted 13 million dollars in cap space, and two OTs that couldn't block traffic.  This year our OT situation hasn't improve much.  What I really fear is having Olsen in on max protection, and we never using his skills to it's max potential.  We got lucky last year as far as making it to the playoffs.  So my thing is let's cut the games and bring in a proven OT.  Yeah, he's been injured, but we are desperate if you ask me.  

 It's March 11. Less than 24 hours into free agency.  9 out of 10 people here would have said we wouldn't make a first wave signing. We knew we wouldn't and discussed it for at least a month. Now we have people flipping out about it. 

 

What about being a fan of a team caused people to turn off their brain? Are we collectively this stupid in other areas of our lives or just in terms of our teams?

[Matthias]

 

It got us a division championship, playoffs, and playoff win.

 

Of course I'm not the one to complain about those things, but we have to admit we were lucky.  I imagine having the same record next year won't amount to the same results.  We were a much better team with Gross anchoring the left side.

 

 

 It's March 11. Less than 24 hours into free agency. 

 

True.  Though the Rams have been reported of being interested in bringing Long back under a lesser deal.  So if we were looking at him, I'd at least put in a call.

[Mr. Scot]

My biggest thing about this is, we trusted Gettlemen last year.  Where did that get us?

 

The best rookie class in team history. a second straight division championship for the first time ever in the NFC South, a trip to the playoffs and our first playoff win in ten years, plus slowly improving salary cap space and solid footing for the future.

 

Any questions?

[TN05]

People forget just how good Jake Long is when he's healthy. He was a four-time Pro Bowler and 2x All-Pro with Miami. By all means give him an offer, just not anything ridiculous and with only a bit of guaranteed money. If he bites, great.

[Matthias]

The best rookie class in team history. a second straight division championship for the first time ever in the NFC South, a trip to the playoffs and our first playoff win in ten years, plus slowly improving salary cap space and solid footing for the future.

 

Any questions?

 

I don't dispute that, but there's no question he failed in terms of free agency last year.  He shouldn't have franchised Hardy, knowing full well he wouldn't be able to bring him back long term.  He should have signed an OT, particularly my guy Veldheer, but instead thought Bell of all people would be a stud essentially.  Of course he then went out and signed Harper and DeCoud, though I admit I thought DeCoud would be reliable.

 

This year I'm giving him a little more leeway, but I don't like the Oher signing.  It reeks of "depending on Bell to be something" all over again.  Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Gettlemen brought Bell back, and was satisfied with that concerning the OT spots.  I trust him concerning drafting, but I'm a bit concerned with his free agency skills right now.

[PantherFanOne]

LT Jake Long would probably be worth bringin in, just to check him out. If he passed an extensive physical and we could get him at a decent price,i say sign him.

[Mojo]

I don't dispute that, but there's no question he failed in terms of free agency last year.  He shouldn't have franchised Hardy, knowing full well he wouldn't be able to bring him back long term.  He should have signed an OT, particularly my guy Veldheer, but instead thought Bell of all people would be a stud essentially.  Of course he then went out and signed Harper and DeCoud, though I admit I thought DeCoud would be reliable.

 

This year I'm giving him a little more leeway, but I don't like the Oher signing.  It reeks of "depending on Bell to be something" all over again.  Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Gettlemen brought Bell back, and was satisfied with that concerning the OT spots.  I trust him concerning drafting, but I'm a bit concerned with his free agency skills right now.

 

I agree with you.  Gettleman has been killing the draft but I think he has a bit to learn as far as free agency.  As long as we see improvement I'm confident.  We just can't expect to limp into the playoffs every year in a bad division either.  

 

[Mr. Scot]

I don't dispute that, but there's no question he failed in terms of free agency last year.  He shouldn't have franchised Hardy, knowing full well he wouldn't be able to bring him back long term.  He should have signed an OT, particularly my guy Veldheer, but instead thought Bell of all people would be a stud essentially.  Of course he then went out and signed Harper and DeCoud, though I admit I thought DeCoud would be reliable.

 

This year I'm giving him a little more leeway, but I don't like the Oher signing.  It reeks of "depending on Bell to be something" all over again.  Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Gettlemen brought Bell back, and was satisfied with that concerning the OT spots.  I trust him concerning drafting, but I'm a bit concerned with his free agency skills right now.

 

The Hardy move was the one big mistake that he made last year.  That move had a domino effect that effectively kept us from going after better players.

 

At the time though, it made sense.  And there was no way to predict what would happen.

 

As to Oher, he's here largely on the word of his OL Coach.  On that front, I'm cautious but hopeful (which is largely how I'd feel if we signed Jake Long; only more so on the 'cautious' side due to his injury history).

 

And I'd add that while free agency last year might not have looked so hot. free agency the year before looked pretty good.  So I'd shy away from any suggestion that we know how good or bad he can be on that front yet.

 

[panthers55]

Who thinks we haven't already talked to Long's agent to discuss bringing him in?  If we dont pull the trigger you can assume we have questions or feel he is not a good fit or not worth what they are asking.

 

Players who are getting contracts this week are getting what they want and likely getting the better end of the deal.  As time goes by, the agents start feeling the heat and are more likely to negotiate. Those are the guys we want and will pursue.

 

BTW, anyone have Remmers on their radar last year?  Who thought that would work out like it did,  Lets see what Gettleman can do with what is out there before we decide we have to have the big names and high priced guys.

 

Long is surely very risky and might be a one year rental or less if he gets hurt again.  We need someone who can anchor the left side for some time.  And that likely will be a draft pick.

[Moorgan]

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports the Rams are thinking they "may get free agent RT Joe Barksdale on the rebound."

Barksdale is our top free-agent tackle left, but beat writer Jim Thomas believes Barksdale could be "overestimating his market value." We're not sure how Jermey Parnell can get a $32 million deal, yet Barksdale has been greeted with crickets. He's arguably been the Rams' best lineman the past two years. Mar 11 - 9:31 AM

Source: Jim Thomas on Twitter

 

[L-TownCat]

The best rookie class in team history. a second straight division championship for the first time ever in the NFC South, a trip to the playoffs and our first playoff win in ten years, plus slowly improving salary cap space and solid footing for the future.

 

Any questions?