Report: Andre Johnson and Frank Gore want to hang with Andrew Luck will sign with Colts

[WUnderhill]

Reminds me a little of when Atlanta signed Steven Jackson.

[top dawg]

He is.

He just posted more than 900 yards with tenants of Oscar The Grouch. He had over 1400 yards the year before that.

[mcdougal]

I'll say one thing. The Colts and the Panthers could not have a more different model. Both franchises started over with a new first time defensive head coach and no. 1 qb. But after that have gone in completely different directions as far as philosophy. 

 

One relies on their defensive head coach to make due with the defensive talent and out-scheme and otherwise out-coach the opponent on that side of the ball. While acquiring offensive talent appears to be the focus. The other is almost the exact opposite, and relies on dumping resources into the defense, and it is up to the offense to make due with the offensive talent that it has.

 

Both philosophy can be successful, I think. But what exactly is the point of hiring a defensive head coach that requires a bunch of talent at the expense of the opposite side? It is like hiring Chip Kelly and then allocating a disproportionate amount to the offense. Isn't that the point of hiring Kelly because he is an offensive genius and can get the most out of less?  

[London Loves Luke]

I'll say one thing. The Colts and the Panthers could not have a more different model. Both franchises started over with a new first time defensive head coach and no. 1 qb. But after that have gone in completely different directions as far as philosophy.

One relies on their defensive head coach to make due with the defensive talent and out-scheme and otherwise out-coach the opponent on that side of the ball. While acquiring offensive talent appears to be the focus. The other is almost the exact opposite, and relies on dumping resources into the defense, and it is up to the offense to make due with the offensive talent that it has.

Both philosophy can be successful, I think. But what exactly is the point of hiring a defensive head coach that requires a bunch of talent at the expense of the opposite side? It is like hiring Chip Kelly and then allocating a disproportionate amount to the offense. Isn't that the point of hiring Kelly because he is an offensive genius and can get the most out of less?

All out offensive fire power with a ridiculous numbers QB vs a defence-first team and play making QB?

Broncos vs Seahawks Super Bowl 48 if anyone wanted to know how that goes down.

[panthersphan]

Meh Frank Gore and a washed up Andre Johnson?

[Zaximus]

Meh Frank Gore and a washed up Andre Johnson?

 

Yeah Gore that had 1100 yards last year and Andre Johnson who continues to put up great seasons with no QB.

 

Not washed up, yet.

[PhillyB]

great signings for indy if they think they have a window and want to capitalize for a few years. at the very least this is short-term improvement that won't cost them in the long run as long as they structure the contracts right.

[ctrcat]

All out offensive fire power with a ridiculous numbers QB vs a defence-first team and play making QB?

Broncos vs Seahawks Super Bowl 48 if anyone wanted to know how that goes down.

Exactly. And we win last year with our All-Pro DE with an anemic WR corps, while the Colts were steamrolled in the AFCCG. That's not changing. Irsay and Grigson are simpletons.

[Johnny Rockets]

Huddle Logic 101

 

Gore and AJ sign with Colts - "They are old and washed up, what a joke." 

 

 

Gore and AJ sign with Panthers - "Just booked my flight to Cali for the Superbowl!"

 

 

The signings aren't earth shattering by any means but the insecurities shown around here sometimes .......I just don't understand it.  I am glad to see AJ going to what appears to be a good situation for him. I don't know what they are going to get paid but it looks to be a couple of solid veteran signings by the Colts. 

[Mr. Scot]

Huddle Logic 101

 

Gore and AJ sign with Colts - "They are old and washed up, what a joke." 

 

 

Gore and AJ sign with Panthers - "Just booked my flight to Cali for the Superbowl!"

 

 

The signings aren't earth shattering by any means but the insecurities shown around here sometimes .......I just don't understand it.  I am glad to see AJ going to what appears to be a good situation for him. I don't know what they are going to get paid but it looks to be a couple of solid veteran signings by the Colts. 

 

I get the point you're making, but to be fair JR, I don't really recall anyone discussing Gore as an option here.

 

There was plenty of discussion of Johnson (I was mostly indifferent on that front) but can't recall any of Gore.

 

[KSpan]

Huddle Logic 101

 

Gore and AJ sign with Colts - "They are old and washed up, what a joke." 

 

 

Gore and AJ sign with Panthers - "Just booked my flight to Cali for the Superbowl!"

 

 

The signings aren't earth shattering by any means but the insecurities shown around here sometimes .......I just don't understand it.  I am glad to see AJ going to what appears to be a good situation for him. I don't know what they are going to get paid but it looks to be a couple of solid veteran signings by the Colts. 

 

That's because Indy would kill to have Carolina's defense.

[mcdougal]

All out offensive fire power with a ridiculous numbers QB vs a defence-first team and play making QB?

Broncos vs Seahawks Super Bowl 48 if anyone wanted to know how that goes down.

 

Yeah, there are many ways to win in the NFL for sure. This nonsense that you need a great this or that is complete BS. You can win with a great running game, mediocre running game, great defense, mediocre defense, great passing, mediocre passing, great DL, mediocre DL, etc. etc.

 

There multiple ways to peal an orange and arrive at the same result. But very often you have to be great at something to win a SB.

 

But I still don't get the point of hiring a guy as a HC because he was a great DC or OC, and then dumping a bunch of resources into that side of the ball at the expense of the other.

 

That is why I never got the Rex Ryan thing in NYJ. Year after year the Jets would dump resource after resource into the defense, at the expense of the offense, all while calling Ryan a defensive genius.

 

Shouldn't the defensive genius be able to win with lesser parts?

[KintnerBoy]

I'm really hating me some Luck.

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Huddle Logic 101

 

Gore and AJ sign with Colts - "They are old and washed up, what a joke." 

 

 

Gore and AJ sign with Panthers - "Just booked my flight to Cali for the Superbowl!"

 

 

The signings aren't earth shattering by any means but the insecurities shown around here sometimes .......I just don't understand it.  I am glad to see AJ going to what appears to be a good situation for him. I don't know what they are going to get paid but it looks to be a couple of solid veteran signings by the Colts. 

 

you really think the reaction to signing a 32 year old running back to the panthers would be like that here