Some stats and numbers that show Gettleman is wrong for not pursuing a top flight WR.

[PanthersUnited]

We were in no position to offer those players big money. Passing out big contracts is the very reason we were in cap hell and in a playoff drought.

Right, you kind of proved my point that we handed out big contracts to who?' Our own guys that we drafted and look where thst got us. My point is, we are living proof that "re signing your own homegrown guys" isnt sure to work out either

[JawnyBlaze]

Only four players on that list who signed as free agents lived up to their contracts: VJax, Tate, Sanders and Smitty.  The only other person I would include is Marshall, but he was traded.  Not a FA.  Different situation.  Vjax is good, Tate is better than expected, Sanders had the best QB of all time throwing him the ball, and Smitty is Smitty.  Did exactly what he'd been doing here for over a decade.  That's half of the players OP listed, not great odds when talking big number contracts.  And that's just the players OP thought supported his argument.  Not even including the Santonio Holmeses, Wes Welkers, Greg Jenningses, James Joneses, Hakeem Nickses, etc etc the list could go on and on.  I don't blame Gettleman for not splurging on a FA WR.  They miss more often than they hit, and it's a big money position.

[Mr. Scot]

Right, you kind of proved my point that we handed out big contracts to who?' Our own guys that we drafted and look where thst got us. My point is, we are living proof that "re signing your own homegrown guys" isnt sure to work out either

 

At this point, I'm pretty sure you don't have the first clue about what works

 

We got farther in the playoffs than almost every team you list, and you think we should do things their way?

 

Good grief, dude.  Are you reading the stuff you're posting here?

[t96]

Not a mystery at all, the answer is simple. NO QB!! Vjax, Djax, Eric Deker ALL on teams with terrible QB situation. Emmanule Sanders and Steve Smith both had franchise QBs. As far as the Dolphins, jury is out on Tannehill being a TRUE franchise QB.

You are implying those teams sucked because they overpaid for the WRs when infact its simply because they have no QB worth a damn.

When you have a franchise QB, (like we do) THATS precisely the time you pay big bucks for legit WR.

 

Can you name the teams that won the past 2 Super Bowls? How about their quarterbacks? And how about the "top tier" WRs that they signed in free agency?

[TylerVagyler]

Right, you kind of proved my point that we handed out big contracts to who?' Our own guys that we drafted and look where thst got us. My point is, we are living proof that "re signing your own homegrown guys" isnt sure to work out either

 

Like I said before. Gettleman has been here for two seasons and he has won two division titles. In the process he has completely overturned the roster while fixing our cap situation. He has kept us competitive while rebuilding the team from a disaster situation. He is setting us up so we can be in the position to potentially sign a big name WR and it not be a stupid financial decision. 

[shreddingdefense]

Also keep in mind that Desean Jackson. Vincent Jackson and Eric Decker didnt have QBs worth a damn, look at Emmanuel Sanders and Steve Smith, they had franchise QBs and hence they made the playoffs. I guarantee if we had Vjax, Djax or emmanuel sanders. We have a winning record last season

 

Reason those teams failed is that they overspent on those players. So you want us to overspend for the same said players that may cause problems not only signing cam,luke, and other guys long term already on the roster but also make it that we will have holes at other positions THIS year as well? Fill a wr hole with a deep contract then you have a hole at oline or safety, then we give up points in the backend and maybe cam doesn't have time to find that wr, then we are losing just like those teams did last year.

[Rags]

Not a mystery at all, the answer is simple. NO QB!! Vjax, Djax, Eric Deker ALL on teams with terrible QB situation. Emmanule Sanders and Steve Smith both had franchise QBs. As far as the Dolphins, jury is out on Tannehill being a TRUE franchise QB.

You are implying those teams sucked because they overpaid for the WRs when infact its simply because they have no QB worth a damn.

When you have a franchise QB, (like we do) THATS precisely the time you pay big bucks for legit WR.

 

If they have no QB how do they keep putting up --You know what. Never mind. Not worth it. It's ust going to go in a constant loop with you

 

I'm just going to ask you a few questions.

 

Why did you neglect to mention some other ig name FA signings, Like Sydney Rice, Percy Harvin, and Greg Jennings?

 

Also, some of the smaller WR signings, like Brandon LaFell?

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

what better time to sign a free agent wide receiver to a gigantic contract than when you're coming off a terrible cap situation and are going to have to turn around and give your star quarterback 20+ million per and the best linebacker in the league a probable record breaking deal the very next year

 

yeah no star quarterback to worry about extending or signing means an easier cap situation to sign top flight skill position players.  why aren't you a GM again?

[PanthersUnited]

Only four players on that list who signed as free agents lived up to their contracts: VJax, Tate, Sanders and Smitty. The only other person I would include is Marshall, but he was traded. Not a FA. Different situation. Vjax is good, Tate is better than expected, Sanders had the best QB of all time throwing him the ball, and Smitty is Smitty. Did exactly what he'd been doing here for over a decade. That's half of the players OP listed, not great odds when talking big number contracts. And that's just the players OP thought supported his argument. Not even including the Santonio Holmeses, Wes Welkers, Greg Jenningses, James Joneses, Hakeem Nickses, etc etc the list could go on and on. I don't blame Gettleman for not splurging on a FA WR. They miss more often than they hit, and it's a big money position.

No they actually dont miss more often they hit. Wallace comsidered a "bust" still put up damn near back to back 1000 rec yd campaign in a toxic dolphin locker room and suspect QB. Hell even Decker put up over 800 rec yds, for the Jets.. THE JETS!

For the price we paid CJ we could have had Vjax AND a Emmanuel Sanders type player. Or Vjax and Djax for the price of CJ and yes. i would trade CJ for that combo in a new york minute.

[PanthersUnited]

what better time to sign a free agent wide receiver to a gigantic contract than when you're coming off a terrible cap situation and are going to have to turn around and give your star quarterback 20+ million per and the best linebacker in the league a probable record breaking deal the very next year

yeah no star quarterback to worry about extending or signing means an easier cap situation to sign top flight skill position players. why aren't you a GM again?

Right, sign a QB for 20 plus million and as a result surrond him with the Jason Avant's and Cotchery's of the world

[SwagAces9030]

Eric Decker (5 yrs, 36.2 mil) (74rec, 962yds, 5tds)

 

Brandon LaFell (3 yrs, 11.0 mil) (74rec, 953yds, 7tds)

 

Kenny Britt also set himself up for a nice payday (1yr, 1.4 mil)

 

I know its Brady and New England, but good QB's, good coaching, and good systems can make bargain players play well over there contract's value. Bad coaching, bad QB's, and bad offense's in general make over paid talented WR's look like crap. Those stats you showed besides Tate and Sanders do NOT wow me in any way shape or form. You wanted us to spend all of our money on Cobb so you can go buy a cool jersey.

[Rags]

and i don't think you understand, these players followed the $$$. the ones that went to teams with good QBs wen a resonale price for one reason they wanted to win. 

 

why do you think the big name WRs went to the teams that don't have a lot of cap tied into good players? go ahead i'll let you figure it out. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

something like this would make sense if you're in the situation that the colts are, for example

 

they have like $36 million in cap space.  they're going to have to give luck a mammoth contract soon but they have a healthy cap number and can make a move or two like that.  we don't and we have basically the same kind of massive extension to think about very soon.

[SwagAces9030]

Right, sign a QB for 20 plus million and as a result surrond him with the Jason Avant's and Cotchery's of the world

 

We actually surrounded him with a 6 ft 5 monster that we used a 1st round pick on, and extended the always reliable Olsen. Now go get some bargain speed and route running, and I'm all for it.