Panthers Mock Draft Rounds 1 - 3

[LinvilleGorge]

TNS, you're assuming that all of us hate O'Leary.  That's not true.  I like the guy.  I think he's an old school throwback type of player.  I'm just not sure he's an NFL caliber athlete and that's why I wouldn't touch the guy until the 5th or later.

[TheNewStandard]

Fat and old Tolbert would still probably outrun O'Leary while moon walking.

Tolbert is falling apart, you can't deny it.

I think Brad Hoover when I see O'Leary

[Mol3m4n]

Tolbert is falling apart, you can't deny it.

I think Brad Hoover when I see O'Leary

Horrible comparison.

[SOJA]

Not a fan of the third pick, but love the first two.

[WOW!!]

Tolbert did none of the above this past season. Gettleman also quoted that the running game is being phased out, which was one of the reasons he is cutting DLo as a June 1st cut.

don't be surprised if Getts uses his other June 1st cut on Tolbert.

So phasing out the run game correlates in drafting a blocking H-back in the 3rd round? ?

Do you see the problem with this statement? ?

[WOW!!]

Tolbert is falling apart, you can't deny it.

I think Brad Hoover when I see O'Leary

Hoover was a RB coming out of college. . O'leary is a slow TE you want to transition to a H-back. .

Beyond the fact that Tolbert and Hoover are faster than O'leary. . They both know how to be running backs.. O'leary hasn't ever taken a hand off in college. .

Can you honestly see O'leary rushing for a 100 yards in a pro football game??

[PantherFanOne]

I am hoping we draft the best OT available with our  1st  rd draft pick. There should be a decent one left, when we pick at # 25.

[WOW!!]

I was stuck on the O'leary pick that I didn't even notice yhe Collins pick in the 1st round. .

Hey I respect me some Igo...

But there is literally no way Landon Collins makes it to our pick..

Best safety in the draft + highly valued position + big drop off after him (horrible safety draft) = Not being close to the 25th pick in the draft..

Sorry J Igo the math just doesn't add up..

I would be shocked if he makes it out of the top 15 picks..

[TheNewStandard]

Hoover was a RB coming out of college. . O'leary is a slow TE you want to transition to a H-back. .

Beyond the fact that Tolbert and Hoover are faster than O'leary. . They both know how to be running backs.. O'leary hasn't ever taken a hand off in college. .

Can you honestly see O'leary rushing for a 100 yards in a pro football game??

I don't know how you can say that Tolbert is fast and I'm not looking for O'leary to rush the ball unless he needs to.

please share with me these magical games where hoover and Tolbert have rushed for 100 yards in a game as a panther.

[WOW!!]

I don't know how you can say that Tolbert is fast and I'm not looking for O'leary to rush the ball unless he needs to.

please share with me these magical games where hoover and Tolbert have rushed for 100 yards in a game as a panther.

1. In 2010 Mike Tolbert was the leading rusher in San Diego with 740 yards and 11 Td's..

2. You are not a Panthers fan if you don't Remember Hoover rushing for 145 2 Td's on Monday night football against the Green bay packers. .

Seriously are you even a Panthers fan??

[LinvilleGorge]

I don't know how you can say that Tolbert is fast and I'm not looking for O'leary to rush the ball unless he needs to.

please share with me these magical games where hoover and Tolbert have rushed for 100 yards in a game as a panther.

 

Nobody has said Tolbert is fast.  He's not.  But, he's fast compared to Nick O'Leary.  For the record, he has three 100 yard rushing games in the NFL, but they were all for the Chargers. 

 

I know for a fact that Brad Hoover had at least one 100 yard rushing game for us.  He was very rarely called upon to carry the ball for us, but back in '00 when we just flat out ran out of RBs he started at RB for us and carried the ball 24 times for 117 yards in a win vs. the Packers.

 

Tolbert ran a 4.75 40 coming out of college.  Brad Hoover reportedly ran in the 4.6s.  O'Leary barely outran the fastest offensive linemen at the combine this year while weighing about 50 pounds less.  That's why I have serious questions about him being an NFL caliber athlete.

 

O'Leary was...

17th out of 18 TEs in the 40 (4.93)

7th out of 12 TEs in the 3 cone (0.55 seconds behind 1st place, only 0.22 seconds ahead of last place)

6th out of 11 TEs in the shuttle

10th out of 10 TEs in the vertical (tied with two other for last at 30.5")

9th out of 11 TEs in the broad jump (2" ahead of last place)

4th out of 14 TEs in the bench press (Yay!)

 

Now, keep in mind, this is considered one of the weakest TE classes in recent memory and Nick O'Leary is clearly one of the, if not the worst athlete at the position in the class.  If you want to classify him as a FB, fine.  FBs are very rarely drafted anyway these days.

 

The numbers add up to a guy who will be a late round draft pick or possibly even go undrafted.  That's just the truth.  Drafting this guy in the 3rd round would be insane.

[WOW!!]

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Nobody has said Tolbert is fast. He's not. But, he's fast compared to Nick O'Leary. For the record, he has three 100 yard rushing games in the NFL, but they were all for the Chargers.

I know for a fact that Brad Hoover had at least one 100 yard rushing game for us. He was very rarely called upon to carry the ball for us, but back in '00 when we just flat out ran out of RBs he started at RB for us and carried the ball 24 times for 117 yards in a win vs. the Packers.

Tolbert ran a 4.75 40 coming out of college. Brad Hoover reportedly ran in the 4.6s. O'Leary barely outran the fastest offensive linemen at the combine this year while weighing about 50 pounds less. That's why I have serious questions about him being an NFL caliber athlete.

O'Leary was...

17th out of 18 TEs in the 40 (4.93)

7th out of 12 TEs in the 3 cone (0.55 seconds behind 1st place, only 0.22 seconds ahead of last place)

6th out of 11 TEs in the shuttle

10th out of 10 TEs in the vertical (tied with two other for last at 30.5")

9th out of 11 TEs in the broad jump (2" ahead of last place)

4th out of 14 TEs in the bench press (Yay!)

Now, keep in mind, this is considered one of the weakest TE classes in recent memory and Nick O'Leary is clearly one of the, if not the worst athlete at the position in the class. If you want to classify him as a FB, fine. FBs are very rarely drafted anyway these days.

The numbers add up to a guy who will be a late round draft pick or possibly even go undrafted. That's just the truth. Drafting this guy in the 3rd round would be insane.

[LinvilleGorge]

O'Leary is one of those guys who was a productive college player who really gets hurt by the combine when the truth about his athletic ability gets exposed.  Not every good college player translates to the next level.  There are a handful of those types every year.  No one expected O'Leary to run a blazing time, but I think most people expected him to run in the 4.8 range.  Running 4.8 flat wouldn't have hurt him.  Barely breaking 5.0 hurts him.  Hurts him bad.  In college, O'Leary gave up athleticism but made up for it with skill.  In the NFL, he'll be giving up a TON of athleticism and those far more athletic guys will have a lot more skill than those he went up against in college.

[WOW!!]

O'Leary is one of those guys who was a productive college player who really gets hurt by the combine when the truth about his athletic ability gets exposed. Not every good college player translates to the next level. There are a handful of those types every year. No one expected O'Leary to run a blazing time, but I think most people expected him to run in the 4.8 range. Running 4.8 flat wouldn't have hurt him. Barely breaking 5.0 hurts him. Hurts him bad. In college, O'Leary gave up athleticism but made up for it with skill. In the NFL, he'll be giving up a TON of athleticism and those far more athletic guys will have a lot more skill than those he went up against in college.

Yeah there are no Boston College or Wake forest weeks in the NFL. .