Brian Hartline and Chris Canty to be released

[GoobyPls]

You guys serisouly want Hartline? This has to be a joke

 

I would rather the panthers inherent Wallace's ridiculous contract than sign Hartline. There are so many decent receivers In free agency I would pick over him,

[The Huddler]

You guys serisouly want Hartline? This has to be a joke

 

I would rather the panthers inherent Wallace's ridiculous contract than sign Hartline. There are so many decent receivers In free agency I would pick over him,

 

what if it was for vet min as our #4?

[WOW!!]

what if it was for vet min as our #4?

 

 

If you cut Bersin and Cotch to I'm good with this for Hartline..

[The Huddler]

btw, combine 40 IMHO is not a reliable source of pinpointing how fast someone is.. think of all the factors that are different in the 40 yard dash that are different in real life on the football field.

 

No pads.. comes down to technique.. someone who has good technique in the 40 could vastly improve their 40 time, seeming a lot faster than they really would be on the football field.

 

also, the 40 is completly unrealistic. Unless a receiver is literally running a straight line, (which is the only position who would ever do that besides CB), the 40 does not exemplify how fast someone could be on a football field doing football moves

 

football speed and track speed are two different things..

 

40 time to me is like "get away speed".. what heppends after the catch..  40 time shows if someone can take it to the house

 

but someone could be considered EXTREMLY fast, in and out of his routes and breaks, stoping and starting, to where 40 just simply doesn't capture this kind of thing. And honestly, I think the only way to see these kind of nuances and mechanics and how someone is football fast is through the tape (what DG goes off of) Thank God our GM is smart

 

 

 

 

 

im not just saying this for Hartline, for any WR. I think its silly to slapp on a 40 time on someone, and say that is all the speed he has. There is so much more to speed on the football field than running in a straight line in tights, where technique could truly skew how "fast" someone seems.

 

dont slapp 40s on someone and say that is all the speed he has

[The Huddler]

If you cut Bersin and Cotch to I'm good with this for Hartline..

 

amen. I like value. I feel like Hartline at the circumstances I posted up there would be value.

 

Now, if we paid him 3-4M a year and is our #2 who we into the season with.. nah man gtfo lol

[The Huddler]

also, imagine a CB directly in front of someone when they are running the 40 in bump and run.. yall really think someone with crappy WR skills but a good 40 time otherwise would get down the field faster than someone with decent speed but good WR skills? what if its bump and run? 

 

the more I think, the less the 40 is relevant to me

[WOW!!]

amen. I like value. I feel like Hartline at the circumstances I posted up there would be value.

Now, if we paid him 3-4M a year and is our #2 who we into the season with.. nah man gtfo lol

Finally someone gets what I'm saying. .

With this draft and FA class this year.. It would literally be a slap to Cam's face for Hartline to end up the best WR we could get..

Some of these dudes just want compliments to KB and Names they heard of..

I want to get a few guys who not only compliment but can challenge KB as the number 1 WR.

[GoobyPls]

what if it was for vet min as our #4?

 

I would take almost any receiver at a vet minimum, so that isn't saying much, The Falcons released Douglas today who is basically a faster Hartline. I would also rather have Denerius Moore if you want to go cheap

 

 

And for those saying that's he's fast, please stop. Go look at any Dolphins game, he's not fast.

[WOW!!]

I would take almost any receiver at a vet minimum, so that isn't saying much, The Falcons released Douglas today who is basically a faster Hartline. I would also rather have Denerius Moore if you want to go cheap

And for those saying that's he's fast, please stop. Go look at any Dolphins game, he's not fast.

I would pay a little more for Britt or Short and some other guys if they get cut.. But I get what you're saying. .

But to counter I wouldn't even pay vet minimum for another Avant or Crotchety again. .

[WOW!!]

Forgive me if someone sees something I don't, I'm not a scout, but he seems to have...

-Great hands.

Not afraid to get physical, good YAC

- great route runner

-good speed

I finally got to watch this highlight video. . And what I see is..

Good Hands..

not a lot of separation..

running A lot of underneath routes not to many go or 9 routes.. a lot of his routes are Cotchrey routes..

Not a lot of YaC abilities..

avg. Speed. .

Not a big play or deep threat WR..

He wasn't facing a lot of teams best CB..

looks like a possession WR..

[The Huddler]

look.

 

simple..

 

he see seems like a more quick than fast guy that is a possession guy.. basically a solid #4

 

butt..  there seems to be a TON of Vets, and they all haven't been cut yet.. we have Cap, we have picks..  We could get a stud at #2 this season and whoever compliments KB and our #2, will be #3 and four.

 

I wana say Philly is our #3, but Hell, bring in some young competition. That will surface the best player

[The Huddler]

i do feel like philly is clutch catching the ball. Ive seen him a lot going over the middle for the First Down

[Anybodyhome]

While it's nice some quality receivers are hitting the market, Getts is only shopping at Big Lots and won't pay market price.

[Byrdman4real]

If you cut Bersin and Cotch to I'm good with this for Hartline..

I believe both will be out the door after the draft anyway, and if not that, they won't survive the preseason.