Brian Hartline and Chris Canty to be released

[Mr Mojo Risin]

He doesn't have elite speed or size he doesn't offer special team abilities... He doesn't have many season of being a number 1 option wr.. All he is... Is a younger slightly better version of Cotchety or a jag player..

If we are cutting Cotchety and Bersin and only paying him league minimum and he is a 4th wr option than cool..

If he is brought in as a number 2 wr and we still have Cotch and Bersin .. Than we failed in the getting Cam weapons and speed theme of this off-season. .

Only way I'd bring in Hartline is if we get rid of Cotchery and Bersin.

[Frank Hollywood]

He doesn't have elite speed or size he doesn't offer special team abilities... He doesn't have many season of being a number 1 option wr.. All he is... Is a younger slightly better version of Cotchety or a jag player..

If we are cutting Cotchety and Bersin and only paying him league minimum and he is a 4th wr option than cool..

If he is brought in as a number 2 wr and we still have Cotch and Bersin .. Than we failed in the getting Cam weapons and speed theme of this off-season. .

 

Again, Target, not Macy's. We aren't going to sign Jerry Rice this offseason. They don't need to be elite. 

 

Also, again, because we sign one WR that doesn't have elite speed (though he is fine on speed) doesn't mean we don't draft one/ sign Ginn/ Jones type player.

 

Look at the highlight vid above. The man has a lot to offer and better than some one trick pony speedster.

 

So again, who do you have in mind that is overall better (price, skill) than Hartline?

[WOW!!]

Again, Target, not Macy's. We aren't going to sign Jerry Rice this offseason. They don't need to be elite.

Also, again, because we sign one WR that doesn't have elite speed (though he is fine on speed) doesn't mean we don't draft one/ sign Ginn/ Jones type player.

Look at the highlight vid above. The man has a lot to offer and better than some one trick pony speedster.

So again, who do you have in mind that is overall better (price, skill) than Hartline?

And again in my opinion he is a younger Cotchety.. Which is a younger version of a dollar store WR..

And let's not forget you want him as our #2 WR option.. So you can talk about making other moves as well but in your opinion we won't get a better WR than him.. Which again would suck...especially with another good draft and FA period for WR.. If Hartline is the best we can get than we Failed. .

[WOW!!]

Only way I'd bring in Hartline is if we get rid of Cotchery and Bersin.

If he comes in for the vet minimum and we get rid of the other slow possession type WR which Hartline is.. Than I'm ok with signing him..

You can't have too many slow WR who don't play special teams on the roster. .

[Frank Hollywood]

If he comes in for the vet minimum and we get rid of the other slow possession type WR which Hartline is.. Than I'm ok with signing him..

You can't have too many slow WR who don't play special teams on the roster. .

He's not slow...

I want to bring him in to COMPETE at number two. If the draft pick covers that, then great. I don't agree with vet minimum, but 3 mil per year would be great. He would replace cotchery (I believe we save money from that as well) and bersin would be gone as well.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

[CAVSS]

Hartline was a track star at Ohio state. Please stop referring to him as slow. It's making you look like you have no idea what you are talking about. 6'2" and 4.5 speed isn't breaking records for size/speed, but it isn't bad either. Kid does everything well. Including getting seperation and tracking the deep ball. Which is exactly what we need.

[Frank Hollywood]

Hartline was a track star at Ohio state. Please stop referring to him as slow. It's making you look like you have no idea what you are talking about. 6'2" and 4.5 speed isn't breaking records for size/speed, but it isn't bad either. Kid does everything well. Including getting seperation and tracking the deep ball. Which is exactly what we need.

Agreed. The highlight video alone shows he gets seperation.

[WOW!!]

He's not slow...

I want to bring him in to COMPETE at number two. If the draft pick covers that, then great. I don't agree with vet minimum, but 3 mil per year would be great. He would replace cotchery (I believe we save money from that as well) and bersin would be gone as well.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

4.58 40' for a WR is slow.. and that was 4-5 years ago when he was drafted. . With age he is probably a 4.6 guy. .

If he is in competition for our #2 WR spot than we failed in bringing in better talent. .

[Frank Hollywood]

4.58 40' for a WR is slow.. and that was 4-5 years ago when he was drafted. . With age he is probably a 4.6 guy. .

If he is in competition for our #2 WR spot than we failed in bringing in better talent. .

He ran a 4.52. That's not slow, it's average. Again, who would you bring in?

[WOW!!]

Hartline was a track star at Ohio state. Please stop referring to him as slow. It's making you look like you have no idea what you are talking about. 6'2" and 4.5 speed isn't breaking records for size/speed, but it isn't bad either. Kid does everything well. Including getting seperation and tracking the deep ball. Which is exactly what we need.

Wtf does that mean.. " He was a track guy in college" so was Crotchety... Was he a deep threat this year for us??

He was a high 4'5 guy coming put of college (which again is slow for a WR) . He probably isn't even that fast anymore..

He is a jag..I'm sorry if it hurts the Hartline family to know their family member is no better than a 4th wr on a good team. . Which we are trying to be..

[WOW!!]

He ran a 4.52. That's not slow, it's average. Again, who would you bring in?

Kenny Britt a 4'4 guy who is 6'5 and cost the same amount. .

Cecil Short who is a 4'4 guy who runs great routes and had pro bowl season with bad QB's.. Who will also cost about the same money as Hartline. .

[Frank Hollywood]

Wtf does that mean.. " He was a track guy in college" so was Crotchety... Was he a deep threat this year for us??

He was a high 4'5 guy coming put of college (which again is slow for a WR) . He probably isn't even that fast anymore..

He is a jag..I'm sorry if it hurts the Hartline family to know their family member is no better than a 4th wr on a good team. . Which we are trying to be..

No. Again, just no. He ran a 4.48 at his pro day and a 4.52 at the combine.

This article does a great job at breaking him down as a player and goes into detail about how he uses his quickness to gain seperation. Apparently he also murdered the three cone as well.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1882604-what-makes-brian-hartline-the-dolphins-most-reliable-receiver

[Frank Hollywood]

Kenny Britt a 4'4 guy who is 6'5 and cost the same amount. .

Cecil Short who is a 4'4 guy who runs great routes and had pro bowl season with bad QB's.. Who will also cost about the same money as Hartline. .

Injury prone and a headcase.

Pass.

[AU-panther]

Kenny Britt a 4'4 guy who is 6'5 and cost the same amount. .

Cecil Short who is a 4'4 guy who runs great routes and had pro bowl season with bad QB's.. Who will also cost about the same money as Hartline. .

Cecil Short is slower and shorter then Hartline.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cecil-shorts?id=2495341

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/brian-hartline?id=81831