NFL: Greg Hardy won't be reinstated because he hasn't been disciplined yet

[MadHatter]

It isn't dillusional.  Get over it.

A year off WITH pay is NOT really a punishment.

 

They told him to either go on the Commissioners List with pay.....or be suspended.  Hardy chose the CL. 

 

 

[teeray]

A year off WITH pay is NOT really a punishment.

They told him to either go on the Commissioners List with pay.....or be suspended. Hardy chose the CL.

Technicality.

But it seems that your argument is that since it wasn't the harshest penalty they could have evoked, it wasn't punishment at all. He had a choice of two punishments, and he chose the lesser of the two. That doesn't mean it isn't punishment

That is nonsense

[MadHatter]

No one is saying the NFL needs a court sentencing to punish people. What we are saying here is that the reason any disciplinary process was started at all was an allegation of which charges to that have since been dismissed.

 

But you (and others) are refusing to grasp that there was enough evidence for a judge to find him guilty.  Even though she did have a conflict of interest and should have recused herself from the trial, the fact that evidence was presented and a judge said guilt IS MORE THAN ENOUGH eveidence for the NFL to take a close look into what was presented.....even though the guilty verdict is superceded by a trial by jury.

 

Is Hardy guilty of everything that Holder accused him of?  Probably not.

 

Is Hardy completely innocent and did nothign wrong that night?  Probably not.

 

Will he be punished by the league?  Very likely....but I am willing to bet it is not 6 games.  More likely 2-3.

[MadHatter]

Technicality.

 

But it seems that your argument is that sense it wasn't the harshest penalty the could have evoked, it wasn't punishment at all.  He had a choice of two punishments, and he chose the lesser of the two.  That doesn't mean it isn't punishment

 

That is nonsense

 

I understand what you are saying and do agree with you to an extent.  But, when the punishment would normally be 4-6 games without pay and he got 13 games WITH pay.  It is still not much of a punishment at all.

 

Not to mention that he was already playing under the Franchise Tag....which players hate.  Always a risk for injury.

 

13 games off with pay (no risk of injury) is much better than 6 games suspended without pay and then 7 games playing under a 1 year deal.

 

And it is "since"....not "sense". 

[CRA]

Yes they can. They just did with Peterson. Are you this slow? Hardy did agree to be put on it but he really had no other choice because if he said no he'd have just been suspended indefinitely.

NFL players have to consent and agree to be placed on it. They can resist if they want. Hardy believed that was his best option.

I'm just stating fact about the list

He likely agreed to it bc it secured him a paid vacation instead of facing you know.....punsihment of losing game day checks.

[csx]

No one is saying the NFL needs a court sentencing to punish people. What we are saying here is that the reason any disciplinary process was started at all was an allegation of which charges to that have since been dismissed.

Ben Roethlisberger, 6 game suspension after the DA dropped the charges. It happens.

[CarolinaCoolin]

To be fair, if you follow what Hardy did while away it sounds like one hell of an extended vacation. Miami, music video, parties, etc.

You're a parent right?

You don't get to see your wife and kids grow up for an entire year. An entire year of precious time with them is taken away from you.

During that time you'll get paid though.

Is that punishment?

If you say no you should show that to your wife and kids.

[CatMan72]

LOL, I assume that by "reinstatement" he means "off the commissioner's exempt list". 

 

This is what happens when you let public opinion dictate policy, the NFL has painted themselves into a corner. 

[CRA]

You're a parent right?

You don't get to see your wife and kids grow up for an entire year. An entire year of precious time with them is taken away from you.

During that time you'll get paid though.

Is that punishment?

If you say no you should show that to your wife and kids.

Did you just try to compare...eh...nevermind. Even I won't tangle with that logic

[CelibatePimp]

Ben Roethlisberger, 6 game suspension after the DA dropped the charges. It happens.

Ben settled with the lady. Totally different.

[The Huddler]

You're a parent right?

You don't get to see your wife and kids grow up for an entire year. An entire year of precious time with them is taken away from you.

During that time you'll get paid though.

Is that punishment?

If you say no you should show that to your wife and kids.

Camon man thats way different

[csx]

Ben settled with the lady. Totally different.

Hardy settled as well.

[CelibatePimp]

Hardy settled as well.

You have no proof. If the NFL finds proof then I think it's fair he gets a suspension.

[WOW!!]

I agree. The Panthers were punished, not Hardy.

Best case scenario now for the Panthers is for Hardy to avoid suspension, cash in on a bug time contract elsewhere, and give the Panthers a 3rd round 2016 pick.

Elsewhere being out of this division. .