Judge overturns Peterson suspension

[Hawk]

fug Adrian Peterson!!!

 

first the world is so full of grief when he loses his "son"...a boy he apparently fathered but hadn't even met yet...wow, huge loss for him

 

then he is convicted of beating his kid with a switch and accused of beating another the same way?

 

screw him man....one thing in life I will never have tolerance for is anyone who hits a child.  A spank is a spank...leaving welts on a kids back because you beat him with a stick?  Hell no

[teeray]

Damn all these Hardy defenders are SOOOOO emotional!!!

Can't they see that even though Hardy wasn't found guilty and the NFL can't make up rules as they go along they can do whatever they want and no one can say anything?! Geez

NFL doesn't care about what's right or fair.

Sike. Teeray has been calling it from the beginning. They aren't going to be able to do much to Hardy. They can't pull things out of their ass. It will go to a judge and be slapped down.

To be fair, that was just my opinion. I said this case would go a long way in knowing what to expect for Hardy.

If Doty ruled in favor of NFL I would have been wrong. But i thought Peterson had a good case that was also bolstered by Ray Rice decision.

I also said for a while that NFL likely wouldn't punish him at all. That remains to be seen, but others like Jeremy and Scot have convinced me that it is unlikely (however I will say "told ya so" if he doesn't get suspended )

[t96]

fug Adrian Peterson!!!

 

first the world is so full of grief when he loses his "son"...a boy he apparently fathered but hadn't even met yet...wow, huge loss for him

 

then he is convicted of beating his kid with a switch and accused of beating another the same way?

 

Not even close to comparable. The guy straight murdered his other son. Peterson disciplined his child and just took it a little too far. I'm not saying Peterson's actions weren't wrong, but you can't possibly compare him to a murderer.

[t96]

I just figured that once he hits free agency he isn't technically employed

 

Why would that matter? Vick was on the exempt list after getting out of prison when he wasn't signed by any team.

[Hawk]

Not even close to comparable. The guy straight murdered his other son. Peterson disciplined his child and just took it a little too far. I'm not saying Peterson's actions weren't wrong, but you can't possibly compare him to a murderer.

 

was not my intent to compare him to the muderer at all.

 

the world was supposed to stop and everyone was painting Adrian as this grief struck father of the year. 

 

And in no world is beating your child with a stick until he is covered in welts "a little too far"!

[t96]

And in no world is beating your child with a stick until he is covered in welts "a little too far"!

 

I don't know how old you are, but it was common when I was a kid to get whooped with a belt or switch until your ass was red as the fuging devil. Peterson grew up that way and that was how he learned to discipline his kids. Once again I'm not saying it's no issue, but to crucify the guy because of him not ever knowing better is pretty ridiculous.

[teeray]

My patents kept switches over the freaking refrigerator just in case.

I got belts and switches at times as a kid.

But times have changed. Plus the Peterson kid was like 4. A little to young for switches IMO

[t96]

My patents kept switches over the freaking refrigerator just in case.

I got belts and switches at times as a kid.

But times have changed. Plus the Peterson kid was like 4. A little to young for switches IMO

 

Absolutely young for switches. Peterson was 100% wrong. I'm just saying he shouldn't be labeled as a child abuser because intent clearly wasn't to harm the child. In his mind, it was in his kid's best interest long term to be disciplined for doing something wrong. That is how he was brought up. I can't blame him.

[Mr. Scot]

Goodell will want to put up a fight, but he and his advisors know he'll lose. I'm certain Hardy will get reinstated.

 

See what I mean.

[CarolinaCoolin]

To be fair, that was just my opinion. I said this case would go a long way in knowing what to expect for Hardy.

If Doty ruled in favor of NFL I would have been wrong. But i thought Peterson had a good case that was also bolstered by Ray Rice decision.

I also said for a while that NFL likely wouldn't punish him at all. That remains to be seen, but others like Jeremy and Scot have convinced me that it is unlikely (however I will say "told ya so" if he doesn't get suspended )

How have they convinced you?

Scots whole argument is that Hardy is an image problem for the NFL so that gives them the power to suspend Hardy for as long as they want and no one can stop them.

That's wrong and I look forward to watching the NFL release a statement Hardy won't be punished. The judge ruling the NFL can't retroactively punish these guys is further proof of that.

But yeah defenders of Hardy are coming from "a place of emotion and no logic" apparently

See Jeremy and scots arguments are flawed in the sense they are arguing from what they think the NFL will do versus what they actually can do.

Scot arguing that the NFL will give Hardy more than two games because that's what rice got so they won't want a PR nightmare like before but they can't do that as seen by this ruling that they can't retroactively discipline these guys.

So now it comes down to the old policy. 2 games max and since he is a first timer and the charges were dismissed you get Hardy walking away from this missing an entire season over an unfair media witch hunt.

I'm struggling to see how this side of the argument is emotion based. That's all

[Mr. Scot]

How have they convinced you?

Scots whole argument is that Hardy is an image problem for the NFL so that gives them the power to suspend Hardy for as long as they want and no one can stop them.

That's wrong and I look forward to watching the NFL release a statement Hardy won't be punished. The judge ruling the NFL can't retroactively punish these guys is further proof of that.

But yeah defenders of Hardy are coming from "a place of emotion and no logic" apparently

See Jeremy and scots arguments are flawed in the sense they are arguing from what they think the NFL will do versus what they actually can do.

Scot arguing that the NFL will give Hardy more than two games because that's what rice got so they won't want a PR nightmare like before but they can't do that as seen by this ruling that they can't retroactively discipline these guys.

So now it comes down to the old policy. 2 games max and since he is a first timer and the charges were dismissed you get Hardy walking away from this missing an entire season over an unfair media witch hunt.

I'm struggling to see how this side of the argument is emotion based. That's all

 

And, as usual, you get it wrong.

 

Never said the NFL had a right to suspend him because of their image problems.

 

I said their image problems are their motivation to try any way they possibly can to keep him off the field and out of the public eye.

 

And try they will, and have, and are.

 

The people being emotional are the ones who think Hardy will just get reinstated without a fight, and even more so the ones who believe he'll just come back and play for whatever we deign to pay him out of the kindness of our hearts.

 

Quick Tip: If you wanna debate someone, it helps to actually comprehend what they're arguing (though I'll grant you've never really let that get in your way).

[CarolinaCoolin]

And, as usual, you get it wrong.

Never said the NFL had a right to suspend him because of their image problems.

I said their image problems are their motivation to try any way they possibly can to keep him off the field and out of the public eye.

And try they will, and have, and are.

The people being emotional are the ones who think Hardy will just get reinstated without a fight, and even more so the ones who believe he'll just come back and play for whatever we deign to pay him out of the kindness of our hearts.

Quick Tip: If you wanna debate someone, it helps to actually comprehend what they're arguing (though I'll grant you've never really let that get in your way).

Except that's not what you said at all in any of your post in the numerous threads devoted to the topic.

Something to the affect of "who ever thinks the courts are going to save Hardy are wrong, the NFL can do whatever they want" obviously I'm paraphrasing and if I wasn't at work I'd go back and multi quote every post in which you argue for this. There are quite a lot of them.

Never once did you argue for motivation. You argued that rice situation is why Hardy will get suspended 6 or more games.

Pro tip: don't try to change your argument half way through like you have been doing all today since the judge ruling against the NFL. It makes you look weak. Or you know you can so I can have the best laughs when I call you out on it.

[Hawk]

I don't know how old you are, but it was common when I was a kid to get whooped with a belt or switch until your ass was red as the fuging devil. Peterson grew up that way and that was how he learned to discipline his kids. Once again I'm not saying it's no issue, but to crucify the guy because of him not ever knowing better is pretty ridiculous.

 

 

I'm 47 and I grow up that way as well....and all it did was make me swear on my own life that I would never, EVER, treat a child that way.  Its not like Adrian is some moron that just stumbled out of the forest either.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Except that's not what you said at all in any of your post in the numerous threads devoted to the topic.

Something to the affect of "who ever thinks the courts are going to save Hardy are wrong, the NFL can do whatever they want" obviously I'm paraphrasing and if I wasn't at work I'd go back and multi quote every post in which you argue for this. There are quite a lot of them.

Never once did you argue for motivation. You argued that rice situation is why Hardy will get suspended 6 or more games.

Pro tip: don't try to change your argument half way through like you have been doing all today since the judge ruling against the NFL. It makes you look weak. Or you know you can so I can have the best laughs when I call you out on it.

And wrong...again. But given that you generally get things wrong I shouldn't be surprised.

Of course, if you were actually trying to make a decent argument rather than just being a douchebag to troll for attention, it would make this process more interesting.