Is 'BPA, or be damned' a flaw with Gettleman's draft philosophy?

[CatMan72]

It is BPA, but need factors in as well. 

[Mr. Scot]

It is BPA, but need factors in as well.

Yeah. It's never been 'pure' BPA.

It's not like we automatically take the one guy that sitting at the top of our board when our pick comes up. At that time, there are probably three or four options discussed and together they decide on one, with need being one of the factors that's considered.

If you want to really understand BPA, what you most need to remember is that the team will never reach for need. In other words, they won't take a player with a second round grade in the first round simply because he fits a need at the time.

That's the real heart of the philosophy.

[CelticCat]

Britt wasn't that good in pass protection.

 

No, he wasn't perfect. But even the top tackles drafted round 1 the previous year all struggled some as rookies.

He did start for the Seahawks almost every game, Ealy came on late. I don't recall CJ getting a sack on him in our last game.

 

Just pointing out that there were players around there that contributed more than Ealy in round 2. In 3 years maybe Ealy is a top DE in the league, still very early. Remmers really made a difference, Bell and Chandler are huge liabilities.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Bpa is overrated

[Mr. Scot]

Bpa is overrated

Last year's rookie class was the best the Panthers have ever seen.

The last two years are the best stretch of drafting we've had to date.

Which part of that is overrated?

[blackcat]

I'm going with 'no', small sample size and all....

[AU-panther]

If there is a 88 rated MLB and a 86 rated LT at the top of our board when it is our turn to pick, how many really believe DG is going to take LB?  I really doubt his BPA philosophy is as strict as some on here want to believe.

 

When you think about a players grade being relative to their percentage chance of being successful in the leage the idea of BPA makes more sense.

 

If Team A drafts (BPA) 10 players that have a 35% chance of being successfull and Team B drafts (need) 10 players that have a 25% of being successfull whose roster will be in better shape long term?  By drafted BPA you are decreasing your chances of having needs in the future.

 

 

[Gin and Juice]

Team need of a position factors into the overall grade of the player I'm sure.

I imagine that the grading system has to look similar to:

System fit 25%

Coachability/character 25%

Past performance/tape/improvement 25%

Athletic ability 15%

Team need 10%

[Mol3m4n]

If there is a 88 rated MLB and a 86 rated LT at the top of our board when it is our turn to pick, how many really believe DG is going to take LB? I really doubt his BPA philosophy is as strict as some on here want to believe.

When you think about a players grade being relative to their percentage chance of being successful in the leage the idea of BPA makes more sense.

If Team A drafts (BPA) 10 players that have a 35% chance of being successfull and Team B drafts (need) 10 players that have a 25% of being successfull whose roster will be in better shape long term? By drafted BPA you are decreasing your chances of having needs in the future.

It's ignorant to think that BPA is a literal thing.

[Mol3m4n]

Team need of a position factors into the overall grade of the player I'm sure.

I imagine that the grading system has to look similar to:

System fit 25%

Coachability/character 25%

Past performance/tape/improvement 25%

Athletic ability 15%

Team need 10%

Also, I'm sure Dave fits his big board accordingly. If the position is filled on the team, then it is more than likely lower on the big board.

[pstall]

I would have to see his list of players and how he index them to grasp his real definition of BPA.

[AU-panther]

It's ignorant to think that BPA is a literal thing.

 

Ignorance isn't a hurdle for some people though.

[Everfrost]

IMO drafting bpa is always better then a reach for a player the media has build up. 

[rodeo]

Gettleman says BPA but he doesn't go by a pure BPA system. He's explained his board, he has vertical and horizontal columns. The vertical is player ranking, and the horizontal is positional. It's not a pure BPA, it's a sort of system that creates the ideal intersection between BPA and need.