4 Things Greg Hardy Must Do to Remain a Panther

[bandu]

Yet people clamor for Josh Gordon and Justin Blackmon to come here. Smh

look at Me stereotyping without a cause or basis!

[GRWatcher]

Putting your trust (and your money) towards someone that's already burned you before - and has definite potential to burn you again - isn't exactly the smartest move either.

 

Let's reference Steve Smith with this statement.

 

Put a clause in the contract for anger management classes (something he obviously didn't do for Smitty the 1st 2 times) would be the smart move.

[Mol3m4n]

look at Me stereotyping without a cause or basis!

 

Look at me looking at you without cause or basis!

[cbarrier90]

Still sad to see folks making Hardy the victim here. He was paid 15 million dollars to sit at home and made an extremely poor decision that ended up dragging the Panthers organization through the mud. He's hardly a victim, nor is it a guarantee he will be innocent, but too many folks on here just can't take off the black and blue glasses.

 

What was fun about the second half of this season was watching a very young team grow up before our eyes. We established a great young core of talent, let Cam become the leading voice of the offense, and set ourselves up in a position to be a consistent winner for the first time in franchise history. Was that an easy process? Absolutely not. But at the end of the day, you'd have a hard time convincing me there wasn't a lot of progress this past season.

 

To bring Greg Hardy back into the fold after all of that progress would be IMO taking a step back and stunting the growth of the young unit that looked like 2013 by season's end. Add in the fact that CJ still has a massive cap number on the D-line and there are a ton more needs on the offensive side of the ball, and bringing Greg Hardy back just doesn't make alot of sense, especially when Rosenhaus is going to be involved in the negotiations.

[CarolinaCoolin]

Still sad to see folks making Hardy the victim here. He was paid 15 million dollars to sit at home and made an extremely poor decision that ended up dragging the Panthers organization through the mud. He's hardly a victim, nor is it a guarantee he will be innocent, but too many folks on here just can't take off the black and blue glasses.

What was fun about the second half of this season was watching a very young team grow up before our eyes. We established a great young core of talent, let Cam become the leading voice of the offense, and set ourselves up in a position to be a consistent winner for the first time in franchise history. Was that an easy process? Absolutely not. But at the end of the day, you'd have a hard time convincing me there wasn't a lot of progress this past season.

To bring Greg Hardy back into the fold after all of that progress would be IMO taking a step back and stunting the growth of the young unit that looked like 2013 by season's end. Add in the fact that CJ still has a massive cap number on the D-line and there are a ton more needs on the offensive side of the ball, and bringing Greg Hardy back just doesn't make alot of sense, especially when Rosenhaus is going to be involved in the negotiations.

Hardy got the panthers name dragged through the mud or the panthers let Hardy get his name dragged through the mud? Please take some time to really think about whose name looks the worst in all this. The team who doesn't stick up for there guy when facing media pressure or Hardy getting branded as a woman beater with no due process and losing an entire year of his limited playing career.

[cbarrier90]

Hardy got the panthers name dragged through the mud or the panthers let Hardy get his name dragged through the mud? Please take some time to really think about whose name looks the worst in all this. The team who doesn't stick up for there guy when facing media pressure or Hardy getting branded as a woman beater with no due process and losing an entire year of his limited playing career.

And I would invite you to take some time and think about whether or not we really need to use another 15 million or so to reinforce a position of strength given all the pressing needs.

As someone said already, he might have been gone anyway based on the cap and Ealy's progression. This headache just makes DG's decision easier.

[London Loves Luke]

Still sad to see folks making Hardy the victim here. He was paid 15 million dollars to sit at home and made an extremely poor decision that ended up dragging the Panthers organization through the mud. He's hardly a victim, nor is it a guarantee he will be innocent, but too many folks on here just can't take off the black and blue glasses.

 

Will someone PLEASE explain the bad decision that Hardy made and provide something that shows this??? 

 

I feel like I'm missing some vital piece of information that everyone else has, and is using to drag his name through the mud. I've looked online for any suggestion that Hardy hung out with strippers, or that Nicole Holder was a painted ***** when they met, or even that he was abusive towards the Panthers or NFL in anyway while he was on the commissioners list.

 

Here are the facts as I see them (I may have missed bits): 

• Holder was a waitress when they met
• She is now a marketing associate
• Hardy called the police complaining about Holder not letting her out and being restrained by his agent
• He said /she said statements released
• Holder and attorney part ways due to "irreconcilable" differences
• Hardy acts petulantly in court and is convicted of DV by the judge
• Hardy appeals
• Ray Rice video appears, Hardy added to commissioner's exempt list

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10937659/greg-hardy-was-angry-nelly-relationship-says-nicole-holder

[cbarrier90]

Will someone PLEASE explain the bad decision that Hardy made and provide something that shows this???

I feel like I'm missing some vital piece of information that everyone else has, and is using to drag his name through the mud. I've looked online for any suggestion that Hardy hung out with strippers, or that Nicole Holder was a painted ***** when they met, or even that he was abusive towards the Panthers or NFL in anyway while he was on the commissioners list.

Here are the facts as I see them (I may have missed bits):

• Holder was a waitress when they met
• She is now a marketing associate
• Hardy called the police complaining about Holder not letting her out and being restrained by his agent
• He said /she said statements released
• Holder and attorney part ways due to "irreconcilable" differences
• Hardy acts petulantly in court and is convicted of DV by the judge
• Hardy appeals
• Ray Rice video appears, Hardy added to commissioner's exempt list

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10937659/greg-hardy-was-angry-nelly-relationship-says-nicole-holder

Can you not possibly see a scenario in which a man convicted of DV could have made poor judgment somewhere along the line? Seems pretty straightforward to me, hence the reason I'm taken aback with these vehement defenses of a guy who put the organization in a no-win situation.

[MadHatter]

Can you not possibly see a scenario in which a man convicted of DV could have made poor judgment somewhere along the line? Seems pretty straightforward to me, hence the reason I'm taken aback with these vehement defenses of a guy who put the organization in a no-win situation.

 

Not to mention that the gameday morning that he was told he would not be playing, Hardy did not stay at the stadium during the game....Hardy did not go homeduring the game.....he went to the damn strip club during the game.

 

Does that really sound like a guy who does not have a habit of making very bad decisions?

 

The risk around this guy makes DG's decision easier.....you don't dump $10-15M a year into a guy who has shown this type of behavior and decision making.

[CRA]

Will someone PLEASE explain the bad decision that Hardy made and provide something that shows this???

I feel like I'm missing some vital piece of information that everyone else has, and is using to drag his name through the mud. I've looked online for any suggestion that Hardy hung out with strippers, or that Nicole Holder was a painted ***** when they met, or even that he was abusive towards the Panthers or NFL in anyway while he was on the commissioners list.

Here are the facts as I see them (I may have missed bits):

• Holder was a waitress when they met
• She is now a marketing associate
• Hardy called the police complaining about Holder not letting her out and being restrained by his agent
• He said /she said statements released
• Holder and attorney part ways due to "irreconcilable" differences
• Hardy acts petulantly in court and is convicted of DV by the judge
• Hardy appeals
• Ray Rice video appears, Hardy added to commissioner's exempt list

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10937659/greg-hardy-was-angry-nelly-relationship-says-nicole-holder

Let's totally forget anything that occured prior to his charge....

He acted like an idiot in court which lead to his conviction

He left the game when he was told he would be deactivated and went to a strip club

Despite being welcomed in our facilities while on the commissioners list he was MIA for the season

Does any of that sound like a guy you want to invest millions in?

[Cpt slay a ho]

yay another panther were gonna turn our back on

[MichaelNewtonII]

Let's keep it real, he's better than any defensive lineman on the team right now. His talent is undeniable and he performs good. Why do we not need him? I think we need anyone who'd make the team better

[CarolinaCoolin]

Can you not possibly see a scenario in which a man convicted of DV could have made poor judgment somewhere along the line? Seems pretty straightforward to me, hence the reason I'm taken aback with these vehement defenses of a guy who put the organization in a no-win situation.

There's no point trying to argue with a guy who has passed judgment on a man without taking in facts. I hope you never get falsely accused of DV because according to you it will be all your fault you were falsely accused.

[Mr. Scot]

Let's keep it real, he's better than any defensive lineman on the team right now. His talent is undeniable and he performs good. Why do we not need him? I think we need anyone who'd make the team better

Because you don't make the team better when you're suspended.

If the team feels the risk of his being suspended again is too great (which, by all indications, they do) then they won't want him back.