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Breaking News - Gettlemagic Selects Defensive End on the first Round.

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Here is what we know:

A. He said (basically) that he is drafting for 2016 more than 2015. In 2016, CJ's ridiculous contract (guaranteed and backloaded) is finally manageable. Cutting him (if necessary) saves $11m. I think Gettlemen is positioning himself so that CJ does not have us by the balls--and DE is a need anyway. So much depends on Frank Alexander, doesn't it?

B. The draft is pretty loaded at DE and there are only so many 4-3 teams who will be drafting the 4-3 DEs--I am guessing there will be about 14 or 15 4-3 defenses run next year. Of course, they can always use a stud DE at OLB in the 3-4, but there is only 1 spot on the 3-4 and a reach to try to convert a first rounder to OLB (and vica versa). I would say the draft is loaded in the top half of the first and then there are solid players in rounds 2-4 as projected now. So, I can see a DE if one drops.

C. The situation at DE is also applicable with players who are being projected by the "experts" on the internet as true Left Tackles. They are Peat, Flowers, and Donavan Smith. Others, like Scherff, Collins, Clemmings, etc. are being promoted as possible Guards or Right tackles. In addition, I do not think that Peat and Flowers are legitimate early first rounders. I think they should be there when we pick, according to talent and ignoring the supply and demand. So, I do not see Gettlemen drafting a pure LT in round one. He may grab Collins or even Erving, but at 25, I have a feeling the talent level for LT is going to be disappointing.

D. Fortunately, the draft is also loaded at WR. Since so many teams took a WR last year and they had so much success, it could mean the apprehension over taking a WR in the first is removed and more will take one this year, or that the need is now diminished. I am looking at the defensive players who are coming out and it is loaded on that side of the ball. DB is weak, but the front 7 players--primarily DL--is loaded. It is possible that a top 3 WR drops to us. Devante Parker, for example. If not, I see a pretty big drop off after Parker and am not sure if a WR is the BPA at 25-one that meets our needs, anyway.

E. So what position could be sitting there at 25 if not a DE, OT, or WR? Defensive Tackle. Leonard Williams, Danny Shelton, and Eddie Goldman will probably be gone, but there is no great dropoff after the top 3 at DT as with OT, DE, and WR. Next you have Malcolm Brown, Michael Bennett, and my personal favorite for the Panthers at DT: Jordan Phillips.

If you assume that 2 QBs, 2 DBs, and 3 LBs are taken before 25, that still leaves 18 picks. It is easy to see Gettlemen not getting the pick he wants at DE, OT, or WR, but hard to imagine 5 DTs are gone.

Which leads me to this question: How would you feel if he drafted Melvin Gordon? It is possible that he is the BPA. Personally, I hope not.

I say the same. We will all throw up, but Gents decides what we need and how the players slot BPA accordingly. By the draft we will all know what we have at running back.

Gents will know if a Melvin Gordon is worth picking for immediate impact and as a long term addition/replacement to what we part ways with.

So ill blink, not going to lie, but im getting the feel of how this dude drafts now so ill understand.

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Free agency for this year, draft may lean toward 2016. I think he said something like that once--you use free agency to fill immediate needs, the draft to build your team--something like that. However, after 2014, his philosophy might be different.

If you look at free agency, knowing what we know about Gettlemen, here is what I see:

The Tackle crop sucks. However, he can find people nobody has ever heard of and they plug right in (Remmers, Whitakker, Glanton, etc). But to ask him to find a LT?

I think he will address lower-cost positions like rotational DT in free agency. He could even find a CB who was misused and would be better in our system. Cason, for example, was a terrible fit, but I really think that one came from Rivera.

To me, Torrey Smith is the perfect fit here, and I would spend Target prices to get him here (opposed to the Dollar Store). It also seems fitting that we would swap WRs named Smith with Baltimore. If he wears 89, I can keep my jersey.

I would not be surprised to see him bring in a S and a free agent TE.

I like Torrey Smith very much and rhink hes underrated. Torrey was in the Superbowl right? So he brings that experience, can help brings even more of that finishing attitude. Hes what, 25-26? Sold.

Eddie Royal is still on my list because hes 28, 29 when the season starts and still returns pretty darn good. I think a good not so old vet thats fast and returns. Sold.

Bring Eddie Royal or Torrey and my high priced Tiffanys pick is still Kam Chancellor. Get that Mike Mitchell attitude back. Him and Josh Norman I think would put the legion of boom to shame-- of course bring multiple superbowl experience to the team.

Continue to bring the winning culture.

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I like Torrey Smith very much and rhink hes underrated. Torrey was in the Superbowl right? So he brings that experience, can help brings even more of that finishing attitude. Hes what, 25-26? Sold.

Eddie Royal is still on my list because hes 28, 29 when the season starts and still returns pretty darn good. I think a good not so old vet thats fast and returns. Sold.

Bring Eddie Royal or Torrey and my high priced Tiffanys pick is still Kam Chancellor. Get that Mike Mitchell attitude back. Him and Josh Norman I think would put the legion of boom to shame-- of course bring multiple superbowl experience to the team.

Continue to bring the winning culture.

 

If I am Seattle, I pay Cam Chancellor top dollar.  He is the one member of the defense they cannot lose.  I am guessing he will bring $10m per year, like the deal they gave Earl Thomas.  If they don't pay it, we should. 

 

Earl Thomas.....$10 million per season

Richard Sherman.....$13.5 million per season

Russell WIlson........$25 million per season (estimated)

Cam Chancellor.....$10 miliion (estimated--is more valuable than Thomas)

 

That is crazy---4 players, nearly $60 million dollars per season.  This is what Hurney did when we were 2-14.

 

Odd man out:  Marshawn Lynch.....$7-8m (estimated-he wants more, Seattle can't give it to him--he is not getting Cam Chancellor's money.)

 

Game plan vs. Seattle:  Run Run Run.

If they lose Lynch, they will see how overpaid Wilson is.  WOW, 

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I like Torrey Smith very much and rhink hes underrated. Torrey was in the Superbowl right? So he brings that experience, can help brings even more of that finishing attitude. Hes what, 25-26? Sold.

Eddie Royal is still on my list because hes 28, 29 when the season starts and still returns pretty darn good. I think a good not so old vet thats fast and returns. Sold.

Bring Eddie Royal or Torrey and my high priced Tiffanys pick is still Kam Chancellor. Get that Mike Mitchell attitude back. Him and Josh Norman I think would put the legion of boom to shame-- of course bring multiple superbowl experience to the team.

Continue to bring the winning culture.

 

For the right price, Torrey Smith would be IDEAL in my opinion.  I've been high on drafting Sammie Coates in the 2nd and Torrey Smith is the type of player I think he'll become in the NFL if he works out.  Smith had a breakout season last year after two solid seasons prior to that.  Adding Smitty to the Ravens' roster hurt his targets this year.

 

One thing Gettleman will like is that he's a TD scorer.  He scored 11 TDs on 49 catches this season and has 30 TD catches in 4 seasons.

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To me, Torrey Smith is the perfect fit here, and I would spend Target prices to get him here (opposed to the Dollar Store).  It also seems fitting that we would swap WRs named Smith with Baltimore. If he wears 89, I can keep my jersey.

 

I would not be surprised to see him bring in a S and a free agent TE.

 

Agree, 100%.  Speed, YAC, young and experienced for Smith. For safety, I'd love Da'Norris Searcy in a Panthers uniform.

 

I really hope we can hit a tri-fecta in FA:

 

WR T. Smith

SS D. Searcy

LT  K. Dunlap (not so confident here, bc I think SD resigns him)

 

I believe resigning Dickson would be fine, considering he looked great once Cam started trusting him, and Shula worked him in.  

 

Grab a DE, CB and RT in the draft + a speedy RB in the mid-rounds, and I'm happy.  Also wouldn't hate to grab a bonafide kicker in the later rounds as well.

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B. The draft is pretty loaded at DE and there are only so many 4-3 teams who will be drafting the 4-3 DEs--I am guessing there will be about 14 or 15 4-3 defenses run next year.  Of course, they can always use a stud DE at OLB in the 3-4, but there is only 1 spot on the 3-4 and a reach to try to convert a first rounder to OLB (and vica versa).  I would say the draft is loaded in the top half of the first and then there are solid players in rounds 2-4 as projected now.  So, I can see a DE if one drops.

 

C.  The situation at DE is also applicable with players who are being projected by the "experts" on the internet as true Left Tackles.  They are Peat, Flowers, and Donavan Smith.  Others, like Scherff, Collins, Clemmings, etc. are being promoted as possible Guards or Right tackles.  In addition, I do not think that Peat and Flowers are legitimate early first rounders.  I think they should be there when we pick, according to talent and ignoring the supply and demand.  So, I do not see Gettlemen drafting a pure LT in round one.  He may grab Collins or even Erving, but at 25, I have a feeling the talent level for LT is going to be disappointing.

Which leads me to this question:  How would you feel if he drafted Melvin Gordon?  It is possible that he is the BPA.  Personally, I hope not. 

 

Would love to see a huge run on DEs in the first causing some of the better OTs to slide down to us.  Not really expecting that to happen but boy would I love it if it did.

 

As to Gordon, as long as it wasn't in Round One, I wouldn't scream.

 

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