Defensive Tackle Options Revisited

[kdrh5]

Ideally, we'd trade for a veteran like Williams, and pick up a young guy with some talent like Letroy Guion.

[Mr. Scot]

One thing worth noticing that may give you a clue as to the kind of player we're seeking.

Panthers GM Marty Hurney has been sighted at two games so far:

Packers - Browns

Vikings - Chiefs

Three of those four teams have something in common. Care to take a guess what?

[CRA]

He is a top 10 talent when it comes to stopping the run. Noobs thought he sucked because he didn't have a huge stat line or 5 sacks, but for what he is, he's excellent. But I agree, no one can collapse a pocket, absorb blockers, or stuff the run like Kemo

I must have missed those games.

I'm not saying he stunk, he was clearly the best on the team. That is a loss. League wide he isn't an above above average DT. Therefore Carolina should be able to deal w/ it. If the D sucks it we can't pin it on the loss of Kemo.

[L.A. Fanatic]

changing to 3-4's

[mountainpantherfan]

I consider Fox/Hurney one and the same.....Fox got a pass with Jake going down (I guess I'm fine w/ that). He/They shouldn't get one for losing very average defensive players and not being able to work around it.

I guess it depends on how much Fox really has a say in what happens in the front office. IMO, Hurney listens to Fox and takes his suggestions like any good GM would but the final say I'm sure still belongs with Hurney.

Something we will never find out but I would like to know is what was Fox's take on the Peppers situation. IMO all of our depth issues, including S, DT and OL, come from tagging Peppers. Hurney seemed to be the one taking a hard line on this situation and to me if this season ends up being a bust because of the issues with depth then the blame should go on Hurney. If coaching is to blame then fire away at Fox.

[mountainpantherfan]

I must have missed those games.

I'm not saying he stunk, he was clearly the best on the team. That is a loss. League wide he isn't an above above average DT. Therefore Carolina should be able to deal w/ it. If the D sucks it we can't pin it on the loss of Kemo.

I actually agree with you. I just see it as the failure isn't in losing Kemo but in the fact the team had no one behind him. Losing Kemo should not be a season breaker but when your only backup with any experience is Hayden it can be.

[Mr. Scot]

changing to 3-4's

Correct. Changing or recently changed (I think the Browns did it last year).

There's talk of the Jaguars doing it after hiring Mel Tucker as their DC (he's a 3-4 guy) but I don't know that there's been an official statement yet. From what I've read, they might just use some 3-4 looks but stick with a base 4-3.

If they go heavy that way, Derek Landri could be an odd man out.

If Marty Hurney gets spotted at a Jags game this week... :sosp:

[mountainpantherfan]

Correct. Changing or recently changed (I think the Browns did it last year).

There's talk of the Jaguars doing it after hiring Mel Tucker as their DC (he's a 3-4 guy) but I don't know that there's been an official statement yet. From what I've read, they might just use some 3-4 looks but stick with a base 4-3.

If they go heavy that way, Derek Landri could be an odd man out.

Talking about teams switching defensive schemes, there is speculation that the Patriots may be switching to a 4-3...I know, not that believable but do you really put anything past Bellicheck? If that is the case, Wilfork might actually be more of a realistic possibility than I once thought.

[Bones McCoy]

One thing worth noticing that may give you a clue as to the kind of player we're seeking.

Panthers GM Marty Hurney has been sighted at two games so far:

Packers - Browns

Vikings - Chiefs

Three of those four teams have something in common. Care to take a guess what?

3 of the 4 have a QB up for grabs, too. Just sayin'

[Purity-Control]

I like Branch, he came out early he was raw maybe we can coach him up and make him a serviceable plug.

[firstdayfan]

I was messing around a little bit online and noticed that the Patriots are deep on the DL. They drafted three DT's this year and feature one of the better nose tackles in the game. Two guys that caught my eye are Ty Warren and Myron Pryor. Warren is 6'5" and about 305 lbs and is more of a disruptive guy, he actually plays DE in the 3-4. Pryor is a 7th round draft pick out of Kentucky and he is short (6') but stocky (315lbs) and is essentially a run stuffer. One thing about these guys is that you know that they will be well coached.

[mountainpantherfan]

I was messing around a little bit online and noticed that the Patriots are deep on the DL. They drafted three DT's this year and feature one of the better nose tackles in the game. Two guys that caught my eye are Ty Warren and Myron Pryor. Warren is 6'5" and about 305 lbs and is more of a disruptive guy, he actually plays DE in the 3-4. Pryor is a 7th round draft pick out of Kentucky and he is short (6') but stocky (315lbs) and is essentially a run stuffer. One thing about these guys is that you know that they will be well coached.

If the Patriots are moving towards running more of a 4-3 scheme then they will need all the lineman they have. Wilfork being the one exception. I'm sure he would be really good in a 4-3 but the need for that 3-4 type of NT isn't needed and his price tag would be the biggest factor. As a 3-4 defense you can't just not resign your all pro NT. As a 4-3, the price goes down or the player leaves. So if, and I mean IF, the Patriots are serious about switching to a 4-3 then Wilfork's value drops a lot to the Patriots in terms of resigning him or keeping him long term.

[BlueHose]

I'd trade Stewart for Dorsey...KC needs a RB. A quality DT is more valuable (especially to the Panthers right now) than a backup RB.

[CRA]

I'd trade Stewart for Dorsey...KC needs a RB. A quality DT is more valuable (especially to the Panthers right now) than a backup RB.

yeah, I'm sure Stewart is real tempting too.......he was always hurt at Oregon, was banged up last year, and can't get on the field right now.