Defensive Tackle Options Revisited

[dpanthersman]

great job mr. scot. I'm also gonna have to agree with you and the others who say nothing will happen until after final cuts. personally i don't care if we go 0-4 in the preseason and give up 200 yards rushing per game, but when the eagles get here week 1, im gonna be very upset if something isn't done by then. out of all the options listed my top choice would be Dorsey, in a 4-3 i really think he can turn into one of the best dts in the game and could really benefit from having someone like peppers playing beside him.

id also like to see somebody like an Alan branch signed, i think we could use a really big body coming off the bench for short yardage situations. i know he hasn't done much but he could at least take up space and i think we could get him really cheap.

another guy i was thinking about was Justin harrell from green bay. does anyone know if there's any chance he might get cut?

[Mesmer]

Great post Mr. Scot.:thumbsup:

I'm really thinking that Hurney is going to do everything in his power to try to get a starting caliber DT. Who's it gonna be? I think a lot of that depends on how all the cards end up falling.

[CRA]

Maake is gone next year.

He is due a significant roster bonus, coming off a major injury and over 30 years old.

plus, he really isn't that good. A shame Fox is gonna be able to use the "injury" excuse if this team falls. In reality we have only lost an average DT who created zero pass rush and a horrific S that was a liability last year. If Fox can't work around those two injuries? Then that falls on Fox.

[Mr. Scot]

another guy i was thinking about was Justin harrell from green bay. does anyone know if there's any chance he might get cut?

Harrell has some injury issues that are apparently pretty severe. There's talk he'll wind up on IR this year. One article I saw even speculated that his career might be in danger.

The Packers have a couple of young guys named Anthony Toribio (6-1, 315, Age 24, 1st year) and Dean Muhtadi (6-3, 296, Age 23, Rookie) that could be depth pickups.

[Mr. Scot]

plus, he really isn't that good. A shame Fox is gonna be able to use the "injury" excuse if this team falls. In reality we have only lost an average DT who created zero pass rush and a horrific S that was a liability last year. If Fox can't work around those two injuries? Then that falls on Fox.

I disagree with the notion that he isn't that good.

What may be valid though is the idea that he might not fit in Meeks system.

[Gscottnc5]

you are the king. Man you know your Football. Rep for you. Great read

[CRA]

I disagree with the notion that he isn't that good.

What may be valid though is the idea that he might not fit in Meeks system.

he is very one dimensional and that showed last season. I would not say that makes him a very good DT. He is a big loss b/c of how weak we are on the DL......but if Fox can't work around that he shouldn't get a pass.

[mountainpantherfan]

he is very one dimensional and that showed last season. I would not say that makes him a very good DT. He is a big loss b/c of how weak we are on the DL......but if Fox can't work around that he shouldn't get a pass.

How does that go on Fox and not Hurney? You saw what Fox has to work with out there. Fox only coaches the team. Hurney is the one that assembles the talenet, or lack thereof.

[KARASMATIC444]

if kemo is so bad then why is it so obvious to everyone that we need someone else in there to stop the run. he was good, he wasnt top 10 talent but he was good. If you dont think so then you probably think that a DT is not good if he doesnt get pressure in the backfield and alot of sack's. He wasnt good at that, but we was good at folding the line in the middle and forcing plays to go around him.

[pstall]

You do what ya gotta do TODAY. You worry about Cap, no Cap next year.

Don't outsmart yourself and be a pennywise and a pound, in this case, 250 lbs + foolish.

Go get one maybe even TWO DT's elsewhere. You will be happy late Jan because of it.

great write up Mr.Scot

[Captroop]

if kemo is so bad then why is it so obvious to everyone that we need someone else in there to stop the run. he was good, he wasnt top 10 talent but he was good. If you dont think so then you probably think that a DT is not good if he doesnt get pressure in the backfield and alot of sack's. He wasnt good at that, but we was good at folding the line in the middle and forcing plays to go around him.

He is a top 10 talent when it comes to stopping the run. Noobs thought he sucked because he didn't have a huge stat line or 5 sacks, but for what he is, he's excellent. But I agree, no one can collapse a pocket, absorb blockers, or stuff the run like Kemo

[Mr. Scot]

What has to be remembered about Kemo is that he's one of those guys whose best work doesn't show up on the stat sheet. His absence is a big reason why the Giants gashed us so badly in the run last year. Add in that he made more than one game saving tackle last season on critical short yardage downs.

The one complaint I do have concerning Kemo is that last year he was used as an every down tackle when to me his best work is done as a two down guy who rotates out on obvious passing downs.

[Kurb]

plus, he really isn't that good. A shame Fox is gonna be able to use the "injury" excuse if this team falls. In reality we have only lost an average DT who created zero pass rush and a horrific S that was a liability last year. If Fox can't work around those two injuries? Then that falls on Fox.

[CRA]

How does that go on Fox and not Hurney? You saw what Fox has to work with out there. Fox only coaches the team. Hurney is the one that assembles the talenet, or lack thereof.

I consider Fox/Hurney one and the same.....Fox got a pass with Jake going down (I guess I'm fine w/ that). He/They shouldn't get one for losing very average defensive players and not being able to work around it.