Hornets and Nets restarts trade talks

[cbarrier90]

Who is reporting this Jakob?

I don't mind it at all. Johnson only had two years left on his contract and is an offensive player. The Lance experiment is over... He just doesn't fit here. Johnson can be a great lead and an even better complimentary player for what's left of his contract.

I definitely think he's a better fit here and if the trade goes down as reported, then Vonleh a d Biz are likely to get more minutes as well, so I think it makes us better. Do it.

 

Woj is reporting it.

 

Bomani Jones tweeted it during the Cardinals game and it's true: Charles Johnson and Joe Johnson are the same player in their respected sports. Much better players when you don't evaluate them in the context of their contracts.

[MichaelNewtonII]

If the team gets better do it

[IamSoClutch]

Is this a future move, as far as creating a lot of cap space for 2016?

[Omega Atrocity]

Is this a future move, as far as creating a lot of cap space for 2016?

Cap space in 2016-17 won't be affected unless we get someone like Jack with a long term deal. The only players we have committed past next year are Kemba, Cody, and our 2 rookies.

[setzer2030]

I definitely think he's a better fit here and if the trade goes down as reported, then Vonleh a d Biz are likely to get more minutes as well, so I think it makes us better. Do it.

Kemba may need surgery, and the extent of Biz's injury is still being evaluated. So that means they'd be sporting a lineup of Roberts, Johnson, Zeller, MKG, and Al....with a really weak bench. I don't see how this move would necessarily make them any better. 

[MrBubba]

Smells of desperation

[TheRed]

Trading for aging players with hefty contracts just to get rid of Lance Stephenson is not only incredibly stupid but blatant blind desperation.

I'm surprised at some of the people here who actually think moves like this are intelligent or productive for this franchise long term.

[cbarrier90]

Trading for aging players with hefty contracts just to get rid of Lance Stephenson is not only incredibly stupid but blatant blind desperation.

I'm surprised at some of the people here who actually think moves like this are intelligent or productive for this franchise long term.

 

As it stands right now, by moving on from Hendo, Lance and Marvin, that frees up minutes for PJ and Vonleh.

 

Isn't that what everybody wanted? Isn't that better in the long term for the franchise?

 

The Al signing screwed everything up. We were headed in the direction of a rebuild similar to Orlando, acquiring assets and young players and sprinkling veterans in on small deals as stop gaps. Then we signed Al and he put the team on his back and played out of his mind, taking the Hornets to the playoffs.

 

All of a sudden, the rebuild was accelerated because of the cap room and the opportunity to become a playoff team in a down Eastern Conference, but the drastic underperformance of the players signed to help fuel another playoff run and the sad regression of Al Jefferson from the opening tip of the season have left us with that Orlando-esque roster.

 

So now, the franchise is at a crossroads. Do they A: Give up a young player that was highly drafted or a lottery pick to acquire a better veteran upgrade at that position (Vonleh for David West, etc) or do they B: Move on from the underperforming players to re-tool the roster for more of a youth movement and players that fit the needs of the roster (The Dave Gettleman Method.) The other option is C: not moving at all, but this week was a harsh preview of what is to come if Kemba is out for an extended period of time.

[Jase]

I don't want more minutes for vonleh... Guy can barely tell a basketball from his ass at this point.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

We're 9-3 in January and about to blow the team up...

Wth is a matter with Rich Cho?

What a fool.

[Jakob]

I don't want more minutes for vonleh... Guy can barely tell a basketball from his ass at this point.

I'm glad somebody understands this. He could easily be a 20/10 player one day, he just isn't anywhere close to being game ready.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

This is a desperation move due to the fact that our leading scorer is going to be out six weeks. This is also going to bite us in the ass if we do this.

With the trade...

PG: Roberts, Pargo

SG: Johnson, Neal, Taylor

SF: Kidd-Gilchrist, Hairston

PF: Zeller, Vonleh

C: Jefferson, Biyombo, Maxiell

Injured: Walker

Kill me...

[cbarrier90]

Another thing to take into consideration about these rumors: Charlotte always keeps things very close to the vest. Whenever the sharks were circling around Lance no one ever addressed it publicly in the front office and ultimately Lance wasn't traded.

 

This might be a play from BKN's camp to put pressure on us into making some kind of move. They are the ones desperately trying to get rid of Joe Johnson's contract and pretty much everyone on that team.

 

As Jakob and 8789 have pointed out, it's a head scratching move from Charlotte's perspective, particularly if Kemba is out, because without him, this team is in dire straits no matter what moves are made. I've opined that the only way it makes sense is to force the roster into a youth movement or if they plan on making another move like sending Jefferson to that select market of teams looking for post scoring.

 

J. Johnson to BKN for Marvin, Lance, Henderson

 

Al to OKC for Lamb, Collison, Perkins

 

Kemba/Roberts/Pargo

Lamb/Neal/Hairston

MKG/Johnson/Taylor

Zeller/Collison/Vonleh

Biz/Perkins/Maxiell

 

Expirings: Pargo, Collison, Perkins, Taylor, Maxiell

[JJman Returns]

Before anyone proposes Lopez and Johnson again it should be noted that pulling off a trade involving those two would be borderline impossible. That's around 40 million dollars we'd have to match in a trade.